Dead electircal in cab after jump start

[pinwormfood]

hey guys, i have been reading posts and checking for solutions, but haven't come across on yet.
problem: i left my lights on in my 1009 and drained the battery completely. rear battery still has good voltage. i tried to jump my truck and put the cables to the front battery as i have done may times before. i turned the key on, got all my my in dash lights, door buzzer, let the battery charge u a little bit, tried to crank it and it wasn't enough juice to get it to start.
i turned key off, waited a few more minutes, and i turned the key on and now i have no lights or anything in cab.....no door buzzer, no idiot lights. nothing.

i am looking around for a fuseable link or something that is keeping the electric from making it to the cab. can you guys give me some ideas...i am stranded here and the guy who was giving me a jump is leaving. so i need to try to figure out what blew so i then can get a jump from someone else.
i have my voltmeter with me, but again, my front battery is dead right now.
thanks guys, i appreciate the help.

 

[Cucvnut]

you drained the battery again.

 

[73m819]

hey guys, i have been reading posts and checking for solutions, but haven't come across on yet.
problem: i left my lights on in my 1009 and drained the battery completely. rear battery still has good voltage. i tried to jump my truck and put the cables to the front battery as i have done may times before. i turned the key on, got all my my in dash lights, door buzzer, let the battery charge u a little bit, tried to crank it and it wasn't enough juice to get it to start.
i turned key off, waited a few more minutes, and i turned the key on and now i have no lights or anything in cab.....no door buzzer, no idiot lights. nothing.

i am looking around for a fuseable link or something that is keeping the electric from making it to the cab. can you guys give me some ideas...i am stranded here and the guy who was giving me a jump is leaving. so i need to try to figure out what blew so i then can get a jump from someone else.
i have my voltmeter with me, but again, my front battery is dead right now.
thanks guys, i appreciate the help.

You did turn the head lights off didn't you

 

[SPCWarning]

Could be a loose connection to the battery since you had nothing on the second try after charging a few more minutes. Try checking/cleaning your battery connections.

 

[Warthog]

Your front battery may be dead/shorted. More that likle it is one of the cables. They may be loose or corroded.

It supplies 12v to the lights/cab via the fusible link at the diamond shape 12v ENG WRG HARNESS BLOCK on the firewall.

The fusible link is circled.

 

[pinwormfood]

You did turn the head lights off didn't you

yes sir. i turned them off before attempting to jump.

 

[pinwormfood]

hope i have the right one

Your front battery may be dead/shorted. More that likle it is one of the cables. They may be loose or corroded.

It supplies 12v to the lights/cab via the fusible link at the diamond shape 12v ENG WRG HARNESS BLOCK on the firewall.

The fusible link is circled.

thank you for the diagram. i was looking at that one in the TM and thought that myself.
i checked for continuity across it and it was good. my only question is if i have the correct link or if i am testing the wrong one. i attached a LINK to the pic of it on the firewall.
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the "link" in the upper left, just off center is the one i checked for continuity" and was good. it had a diamond shape so i thought that was the one you were referring to. please let me know if it's the correct one.
a guy let me borrow a charger for the front battery. i have it on there now. god knows how long that will take to get a good charge.

 

[porkysplace]

How old are the batteries?

 

[Warthog]

The 12v Feed from the batteries to the diamond shape 12v block is marked with the arrow and blue line. The blue part is the fusible link.

The red lines are the fusible links that pass thru the firewall and go to the fusebox and ignition switch.

You REALLY need to clean your connections. The CUCVs (and GM vehicles) do not like dirty connections

 

[mistaken1]

Draining a battery too far can ruin it. The front battery may be damaged. I have had a battery fail in such a way that I could not jump start the vehicle with the bad battery connected, I put in a new battery and the vehicle started right up.

 

[m1010plowboy]

You first, me next

Thanks for starting this thread because I'm going through the same adventure right now. You've set up all the info I need to get running again. My 1010's been sitting since Nov.10th when she was staged at Harley Davidson of Edmonton for a Veteran and Military Family Support Show.

The girls were in the back taking photos and I left a doctor light on since I parked it that night.

I boosted and charged it just now to get fired up. Immediately after removing the booster cables I lost all lights and she stopped running within a few minutes.

Hopefully you and I didn't pooch something worse then batteries. It's 32f here with 50mph winds and I still don't mind working on my MV in the dark.

Keep us posted on your solutions.

 

[m1010plowboy]

Battery's charged

Pinwormfood, you fired up yet?

I just finished charging both batteries and everything seems golden. Let's plan for you having the same luck.
Do I need to bring my charger down there?

 

[top_prop]

poor grounds + dirty connections + weak battery= low/no voltage

first round solution:

clean & check all contacts & resnug + recharge battery

while you are in there look for damaged/burn out fusible links...

Hope it helps,

Tom

 

[still standing still cyco]

I'm not sure if it would have the same effect on your 1009 as it did on my 1010, but I have a bad charging system I havent gotten to fix yet (using the hillbilly fix of running two deep cells, and carrying a charger and extension cords in truck), and have ran the front battery so dead the truck shut off while driving. It was too low to even send power thru the ignition switch, and acted as if the key was switched to off, or had blown a fusible link... I had nothing, even though back battery was about 75-85% charged... I don't recommend this setup, but it works for me until I can get the spare cash for a 12v starter and glowplugs (I have a brand new alt. off of a big IH dump truck I'm hoping I can make work for the conversion). Just my , not sure if that info will help you at all or not.

 

[unaffiliated]

Having been in the auto repair business all my life, I learned a lot of tricks from my brother. He was kind of my mentor, also in the biz all his life (May He RIP). He told me that if you have a battery that has been drained completely, sometimes it will not recharge on its own with a battery charger. He said you often need to "juke them up". To do this I connect the battery charger to the dead battery, then connect a known good battery to the dead one with jumper cables. Somehow this allows juice from the good battery to help charge the bad battery. It's obviously FM (Freakin Magic). Don't know how it works but it does. I don't know if this helps you guys or not, just a useful tip I wanted to pass along.

 

[still standing still cyco]

unaffiliated, don't quote me on this in a life or death argument with anyone(hehehe), but I believe the concept behind that battery trick isn't as much to boost the dead battery off of the better one, but to create a stronger electrical draw to get the charger to register the dead battery being hooked up, almost like syphoning liquid, i.e. sucking om the hose to get the liquid flowing initially. Sometimes if a battery is too far dead, it doent have the power to pull the charge from the charger at all... the good battery gets the juice flowing from the charger through the bad one, but doesnt actually use its power to charge the weaker battery... but I'm really not very smart, so I could be way off in left field and blowing smoke... hahaha...

 

[m1010plowboy]

Unified Unaffiliated

unaffiliated, it sounds like you've been around this stuff for a while. It wasn't enough that I boosted and fired as the A- nator could not get enough juice built up to keep the batteries charged. The idea of an additional "boost" with a charger and another battery makes sense to "excite" the cells to begin working. Without ever really knowing what the heck I'm doing.....you described exactly what I do.

Have you ever had a battery explode on you?

Hearing that pinwormfood had the batteries drain "out", as did mine, scares the eyeballs out of me. Dead batteries can apparently go boom.....but I've been lucky enough to avoid the exploding hydrogen scenario.

I'm posting a few links but I've been around all kinds of dead batteries for nearly 4 decades and haven't blown myself up....yet. I'm still paranoid enough to keep the face back when connecting anything but the following links describe what can happen and what to do. Until the Pin posts that he's running.....well, safety first.

Battery Safety

How to Jump Your Battery - wikiHow

OSH Answers: Batteries

Going home with ten fingers, ten toes and a face....is all that really matters.

 

[pinwormfood]

Draining a battery too far can ruin it. The front battery may be damaged. I have had a battery fail in such a way that I could not jump start the vehicle with the bad battery connected, I put in a new battery and the vehicle started right up.

that is exactly what happened. except i didn't ruin the battery. i charged it up and it started right up. that battery is holding a charge thankfully and i am up and running. whatever fuse kicked out must have reset and i was able to get mobile again.
thanks for the help fellas...i really do appreciate it.

 

[pinwormfood]

Pinwormfood, you fired up yet?

I just finished charging both batteries and everything seems golden. Let's plan for you having the same luck.
Do I need to bring my charger down there?

same deal..charged up the front battery and boom....she was up and running.