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That'd be awesome. How much do they run? Be a good identifier to the rest of the world.

RE: Have a 5ht wheel available Don't worry crane, I have an incredible amount of ingenuity. Call it a knack for getting things done that I shouldn't have been able to. We call it Hillbilly Engineering.

Hey pa.rich, citizensoldier has a 5 ton dump that needs motor work. Might make you a good deal on it. I definitely might be interested in parts. I'll wait till I pick up the project truck before I start accumulating parts. I don't think it will be too hard to mount the fifth wheel. Set, align...

I welcome all comments. Another thing I thought about was mounting a sliding fifth wheel to accomodate differant trailers and weights. What do y'all think?

Good info guys. What about a Tractor Protection Valve? What about towing capacity? I'm drawing a blank on the trolley brake. What is it and what does it do? So these trucks were designed to have air brake equipped trailers? What wheelbase truck should I look for? I want to try and stay away from...

Thanks for the info poppop. How would you work the brakes on the converted deuce? I think (lol newbie) they are air over hydraulic. Would I need to mount a compressor and plumb some lines or would I have to fab up a whole new braking system? Also, I assume the 5 tons are full air brakes so those...

LOL, no doubt. It'd work out better if we both found good priced running driving trucks. Do a driver swap halfway. Send me any links or pics of tractors you find. For the right deal, I might be able to finaggle a tractor/ trailer from the neighbor.

BTW, the trailer I will haul will likely be a short dropdeck or standard flatbed. Maybe a 25 ft. van trailer if I need to help friends move.

As some of you know I'm looking for a 5 ton tractor. I seem to find dumps more regularly than I do tractors so here's what I'm wondering. If I found a dump with the same wheelbase as a tractor, what would be involved in converting it to a tractor? Also, will a 5 ton tractor be able to haul...