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  1. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    Is that to say there definitely were M48A5's (not the AVLB's you mentioned) being fielded by active-duty armor units in Europe? Aside of active units, I recall several discussions in the early 1980s about what our state was going to do with the dozens of M48A5's our two Bn's allegedly kept...
  2. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    At this time it has been confirmed that two active-duty armor battalions in Korea with the 2nd ID received M48A5's. They were the 1st and 2nd Bn's of the 72nd Armor.. Likely there were others sent to active duty units in europe and the middle-east as well.. I have made acquaintance with Andy...
  3. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    The pics below are not mine but are of my former BN ... Most of its tanks (@50 per BN) were stored at Ft Drum NY, others were supposedly stored combat-ready in W.Germany, and about 3 dozen were scattered around unit facilities and training areas in Vermont, per each Bn.. Wish I had gotten an...
  4. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    some more personal fun from long ago ,, We got overrun and captured by these guys ,, 1980 This track ran outa fuel the night before, stranded almost 24 hours .. Were happy to see my ugly a** .. 1984 Chopping wood. (not quite). 1981 Not what you want to meet at 50mph with a...
  5. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    well, apparently we didn't have enough fun with the one we had !!! rofl
  6. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    while captain crunch (above) was saddled with the drudgeries of tank ops in "wonderful" weather conditions, I got to goof off a time or two, even steal someones jeep for a quick spin, in between my own daily dealings. (M151A2) (early Mack-powered M52A1, downswept exhaust, M127A1C trailer...
  7. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    \ the el-tee yells from the cab, "Get them lousy tankers over here to help unload their own willy pete !!!" (severe editing in effect). #36 was one of the few A2's that OMS swapped its multifuel out with a mack ENDT-673 .. At the time, batallion command would take promising officers out of...
  8. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    My friend was a TC / Platoon Leader with 172nd armor from VT, under the 86th BDE, a long-time combat arm of the 50th AD. Before that, the 86th was a combat arm of the 43rd ID in the Pacific theater '42-'45.. He was not part of the Ft Hood incident that night but was participating in a different...
  9. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    Some on here may find interest and be surprised to learn that the basic (straight) M60 was still in use at Ft Hood TX as late as the summer of 1987, at the least, almost 30 years after its development. A very good friend was part of a fire & maneuver tactical night exercise utilizing several of...
  10. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    both M48A5 tank BN's in "our" Brigade had the stabilized M68 main gun, IR sights and periscopes, the IR-selective searchlight, M60A1-RISE powerpacks and crossdrive, the NBC system, and the RISE hull upgrade , to the least of my recollection ..No TTS , and obviously no ERA .. I recall crews...
  11. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    I believe it ! I do recall seeing M48A3-based or perhaps A5-based AVLB's on occasion as late as the early-mid 1990s in the states , but no idea how long they lasted here. Long ago there was talk our Brigade had at least a BN-sized number of A5's sitting in WGermany kept in operational status in...
  12. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    why would you say less fortunate? The A5's certainly are better than anything older and their M60A1 gun system was a huge improvement over the M48A3.. The A5's in my pictures had IR sights/scopes and other updates which put them equal with the M60A1. Very late on, a few in the BN had LRF...
  13. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    yes they did .. the particular ones pictured had left their batallion as M48A3's , were rebuilt , and came back as A5's with the M60A1 gun platform and the RISE standard.. At the time of these pics , this BN's A5's had been fitted with improved IR, stabilized M68 gun, and other updates which...
  14. msgjd

    early-80's armor field ops

    just a few of my personally-taken pics from back when. .. the last pic illustrates what happened to a minty-fresh butterbar Scout in his M114 who fed the Tankers misinformation :ROFLMAO:
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