5 ton air cleaner on a Deuce

[FMJ]

Is there a thread out there that has pics, or an install thread? every thread I've found is a pissing contest about filters, cfm, etc. . . . I also didn't see a suggested threads list at the bottom of the new post page? is it my computer or?

Thanks,
Ed

 

[jdknech]

eagle4g63 has done this mod to his deuce.. (he also installed a 5ton multi) I would contact him for info and pics.. He is a super helpful guy..

 

[gimpyrobb]

Ed, I have everything needed to add one to my deuce. It was going to be expensive to get ducting from the filter housing to the turbo intake, but I got lucky and found a medium duty IH that had the stuff I needed. I will try to get pics tomorrow.

 

[Warthog]

Hey gimp, you still want the filter off the M54?

 

[gimpyrobb]

The rain cap, not the whole she-bang, please.

 

[brianp454]

Why go through any of the trouble to do this?

 

[gimpyrobb]

More air flow(410cfm VS 550) will lower EGTs and larger filter area reduces how fast it plugs up.

 

[FMJ]

What about the M35A3 filter system? anyone have the CFM specs on the filter, also underhood pics?

 

[brianp454]

So does that correspond to improved mileage (reduced fuel consumption) or more power? The stock deuce filter is huge and bigger in comparison to some engines rated for far more power. Given the dinky turbo compressor side I just don't see the benefit. I don't have a problem with EGT's as it is, so where the tire meets the road how much are they reduced?

 

[59apache]

they're looking cool on the fender ...i've got a pic from here, but can't remember to whom belongs the truck.....

http://imageshack.us/a/img849/6888/pqp4.jpg
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[cranetruck]

Probably won't make any measurable difference, here are some of my notes from way back,



Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "clogged filter indicator" goes into the red at about 20 inches of water IIRC.

 

[gimpyrobb]

So does that correspond to improved mileage (reduced fuel consumption) or more power? The stock deuce filter is huge and bigger in comparison to some engines rated for far more power. Given the dinky turbo compressor side I just don't see the benefit. I don't have a problem with EGT's as it is, so where the tire meets the road how much are they reduced?

Well, I'm doing it because I can. By putting the filter on the fender, I will be making room to install my fuel fired coolant heater. I am also going to be installing a larger turbo from a 5ton truck. Its kinda like those guys that waste money using Amsoil or Royal Purple oil. It isn't better, just different(maybe).

 

[Warthog]

The rain cap, not the whole she-bang, please.

Help me out on which part. Getting old sucks. Or too many of Zout's cherries didn't help....

 

[gimpyrobb]

Its not in that parts breakdown.

Basically, its the mushroom cap. Does that help?

 

[Warthog]

Doesn't have one. Just the rubber elbow pointing down

 

[Junkyard Wars Crusher]

I recently bought a deuce that had the 5-ton air cleaner (added by previous owner). He just mounted it on the fender backwards (intake end forward) and then plumbed directly into the inlet of the existing deuce(underhood) air cleaner. Of course he removed the mushroom cap and removed the stock deuce air filter element. That way the stock deuce air cleaner is just a hollow elbow now (pass though).

To summarize flow goes like this - Inlet of 5-ton filter housing forward. Then connect outlet of 5-ton housing to 90 degree elbow to existing stock deuce housing (filter element removed). Then stock hose routing to engine.

(This truck is N/A: non-turbo).

I could take a picture if it would help.

 

[gimpyrobb]

No reason not to.

 

[FMJ]

I guess I need to clarify, I am putting an LDS engine in my deuce. I want to do everything possible to make the turbo as efficient as possible. I don't care about fuel economy. I want power. Does anyone have the CFM specs on the M35A3 filter element?

 

[gimpyrobb]

Here's what's listed for the A3

NSN 2940-01-400-3846
Cummins # 87971-1,
A.M. General # 5743562,
United Air Filter # W250C300

I couldn't see a cfm rating anywhere, but maybe the part numbers would help you.

 

[FMJ]

Here's what's listed for the A3

NSN 2940-01-400-3846
Cummins # 87971-1,
A.M. General # 5743562,
United Air Filter # W250C300

I couldn't see a cfm rating anywhere, but maybe the part numbers would help you.

Yeah, I went through all of them with no joy. . . Cummins doesn't even make them anymore. . . .