Any CVRT owners near southern nh?

[MikeMikeMike]

Continuing my research into ownership of a CVRT but have yet to actually see one up close. I live near Nashua nh and thought I’d check around to see if there’s anyone within an hour or so, that I could spend a few hours with me to show me theirs.
Thanks
Mike

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

For those, like me, who can't pull the full name of a CVRT out of thin air, here's what WIKI helped me translate....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV101_Scorpion

CVRT = Combat Vehicle Reconnaissance (Tracked) such as the FV101 Scorpion.

 

[Andrew Rowe]

Great little vehicle, I have owned a couple for several years. You can still pick up crated engines from GBP750 - GBP1200 and most little parts are available in the UK.
Brake seals and components, only take a week to arrive if you need them. Wheels and tracks also you see them come up for sale .I have even got a rebuilt Transmission (TN15 ) for sale if you need one for the petrol engine type.Have spare final drives and takeout gearboxes if you want to stock up on spares. Cheers Andrew.

 

[MikeMikeMike]

For those, like me, who can't pull the full name of a CVRT out of thin air, here's what WIKI helped me translate....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV101_Scorpion

CVRT = Combat Vehicle Reconnaissance (Tracked) such as the FV101 Scorpion.

Hi yes sorry, figured they were more well known. I’m looking into the fv103 spartan specifically but any in that class will do as they are all variants of the same platform.
Thanks
Mike

 

[MikeMikeMike]

Great little vehicle, I have owned a couple for several years. You can still pick up crated engines from GBP750 - GBP1200 and most little parts are available in the UK.
Brake seals and components, only take a week to arrive if you need them. Wheels and tracks also you see them come up for sale .I have even got a rebuilt Transmission (TN15 ) for sale if you need one for the petrol engine type.Have spare final drives and takeout gearboxes if you want to stock up on spares. Cheers Andrew.

Thanks Andrew. Always good to know who has spares. I’d probably be looking into the gas variant due to the larger availability of (and generally cheaper) parts despite the advantages of diesel. Also noticed the contractor for the road wheels and tracks still makes them new and even with bolt on pads. Always a plus to have access to parts!
Thanks
Mike

 

[CMPPhil]

Helpful addition to the thread

For those, like me, who can't pull the full name of a CVRT out of thin air, here's what WIKI helped me translate....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV101_Scorpion
CVRT = Combat Vehicle Reconnaissance (Tracked) such as the FV101 Scorpion.

Thanks for adding the link to discription, helps to put vehicle picture with the acronym. I know from experience that everybody knows what a CMP HUP is but that's a horse of a different color.

But to Mikes original question any CVRT owners in near Southern New Hampshire, don't remember his name or where he lives but there has been a, I believe, FV101 Scorpion at the Weare Summer Rally several time over the last few years, perhaps the owner is on SteelSoldiers and will chime in . There have also been several other lite armor and armored personal carriers there as well.

With the MVPA Convention in PA this year not sure how much armor we will see Weare this year, sometimes when two good events happen so close together the armor owners take the tracks to one event and drive the rubber tired vehicles to the other.

Cheers Phil

 

[MikeMikeMike]

Thanks for adding the link to discription, helps to put vehicle picture with the acronym. I know from experience that everybody knows what a CMP HUP is but that's a horse of a different color.

But to Mikes original question any CVRT owners in near Southern New Hampshire, don't remember his name or where he lives but there has been a, I believe, FV101 Scorpion at the Weare Summer Rally several time over the last few years, perhaps the owner is on SteelSoldiers and will chime in . There have also been several other lite armor and armored personal carriers there as well.

With the MVPA Convention in PA this year not sure how much armor we will see Weare this year, sometimes when two good events happen so close together the armor owners take the tracks to one event and drive the rubber tired vehicles to the other.

Cheers Phil

Thanks Phil! I was unaware of the show in weare. Spent the last hour looking over their website. That’s not far from me so I’ll put it on my calendar along with my annual visit to the Collings foundation in Stowe ma. I saw the scorpion you mentioned in their photos and I’ll dig a little deeper to see if there’s any mention of the owner. With the cost and speed of transportation they probably don’t live far from weare!
Mike

 

[kubotaman]

The guy Phil is referring to is Martin Cox. He is on here, but he sold his vehicle. There is a nice FV101 Scorpion for sale at the Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles if you are looking to buy.

 

[MikeMikeMike]

The guy Phil is referring to is Martin Cox. He is on here, but he sold his vehicle. There is a nice FV101 Scorpion for sale at the Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles if you are looking to buy.

Thanks for the info. I found the 101 you mentioned. Looks pretty nice and I’d probably consider it but I’m after the apc variant.
Thanks again
Mike

 

[MikeMikeMike]

There’s also a spartan down in in GA but for the price increase on domestic units I’m leaning towards importing. We will see though and who knows. Over my time frame there will probably be more that come up for sale here in the states and the price difference may narrow.
Mike

 

[Jericho]

they can still be had cheaper in England CHeck out Mil Web. you will need a good bonded shipping agent!

 

[desmodromic]

There’s also a spartan down in in GA but for the price increase on domestic units I’m leaning towards importing. We will see though and who knows. Over my time frame there will probably be more that come up for sale here in the states and the price difference may narrow.
Mike

If you get serious about importing, I’d split a container with you. I need a CVRT in my life.

 

[teletech]

Hey guys, I'm not saying you shouldn't do you own import, but I'll just leave this here:
https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?138852-How-NOT-to-import-armor

I know a guy who had several FV-103s and the much rarer ambulance (Samaritan) and command post (FV-105 Sultan) versions for sale in Illinois, they were rough and had been sitting but they were also under $20K per.
Let me know if you get serious as I should buy some spare parts for mine.

 

[Coltman15]

Hello all,
I’m sort of close to NH, I’m currently in the process of importing a Cvrt Sabre (30mm gun version with a fox turret). Mine was restored by Rob Dove, well known over for his work on Cvrts. I’m into the soviet variety of things so I’m mulling over what to do with this thing when it gets here

Coltman15

 

[MikeMikeMike]

Thanks

Hey guys, I'm not saying you shouldn't do you own import, but I'll just leave this here:
https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?138852-How-NOT-to-import-armor

I know a guy who had several FV-103s and the much rarer ambulance (Samaritan) and command post (FV-105 Sultan) versions for sale in Illinois, they were rough and had been sitting but they were also under $20K per.
Let me know if you get serious as I should buy some spare parts for mine.

Thanks. You know, I stumbled onto your import thread a month ago and read the whole thing. Very informative. I’d be interested in hearing more about your acquaintance in Illinois! I was actually hoping to get a project but scared from your thread about the difficulties compounded by a vehicle that can’t move under its own power packed with parts. I’m still weighing all the options as I’m waiting to see how much damage a surgery bill will do to my near term aspirations.
Mike

 

[MikeMikeMike]

Hi Coltman. I don’t travel a whole lot but if I find myself in PA I will certainly invite myself over to look at your cvrt Wishing you an incident free import.
Mike

 

[MikeMikeMike]

Hey guys, I'm not saying you shouldn't do you own import, but I'll just leave this here:
https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?138852-How-NOT-to-import-armor

I know a guy who had several FV-103s and the much rarer ambulance (Samaritan) and command post (FV-105 Sultan) versions for sale in Illinois, they were rough and had been sitting but they were also under $20K per.
Let me know if you get serious as I should buy some spare parts for mine.

So we had an unexpected “life event” that put a ding in my play money account which always seems to happen but it hasnt killed my bug to get one of these things. I found the guy you were referring to and from google map pics it looks like he still has them (his email didn’t work but I found a phone number). Before I call him though, I have to collect some background data.

Wiki says they are 8’8” tall. Is this correct? Seems like they are under 8’ (my 8’ door is much easier to access than my 12’ door) especially for a 9 ton paper weight.

What forms are required from the government (private sale between us citizens) and I imagine they require a serial number found on the vehicle? Do they require anything more than a bill of sale for the forms? ( off road use only)

Are there transportation companies you would recommend? That go through the eastern half of the US. That know of various state transportation restrictions and so on? I’d have to get a ball park estimate from them.

Thanks
Mike

 

[teletech]

I can't speak to the height of the command post or ambulance but the Spartan I have sitting here is under 7' tall to the hull top and 88" to the top of the cupola main periscope. I suspect you could pull the periscopes on the Sultan and it might still fit in your door, if not then pulling the cupola body would do it for sure and you could have much better headroom as the Spartan is pretty cramped inside (think 1990s short body cargo van).

Cash and a handshake... bill of sale is fine but if you get a copy of his original sale and import documentation as well you could perhaps have a shot at a title which would improve resale value for those place where they can be made road-legal.

Any trucking company should be fine, it's just like shipping a farm tractor or bit of construction equipment. They aren't heavy or wide so no issues about permits which is one of the things that make them so popular. The only issue is going to be loading and unloading a thing that rolls but is unpowered. I paid a tow truck (one for semis as the rated weight is just a bit over what the smaller flatbed tow rigs around here are rated for) to slide mine out of the container and onto the ground at which point I pushed it around with a forklift or used a come-along to winch the track against the hull so I could move and turn it in tight spaces. If one were really patient I suppose one could "drive" one up a bit of an incline with a couple come-alongs or electric cable winches bur just calling a semi-wrecker with a boom should answer the dragging it on or off a low-loader issue.

Assume you are dealing with 17000lbs that is 17' long and 8' wide. In reality it might well be under 15,000 which is the cleavage point for the smaller wrecker trucks it seems since that 17000 is more like the combat or bridge weight I think and if you don't have 85 gallons of fuel and seven guys with kit plus all the fitted radio gear and 4x large batteries it should be rather less. I'd love to know an actual weight but I was way too rushed when I unloaded mine to have them driven over a scale.

So we had an unexpected “life event” that put a ding in my play money account which always seems to happen but it hasnt killed my bug to get one of these things. I found the guy you were referring to and from google map pics it looks like he still has them (his email didn’t work but I found a phone number). Before I call him though, I have to collect some background data.

Wiki says they are 8’8” tall. Is this correct? Seems like they are under 8’ (my 8’ door is much easier to access than my 12’ door) especially for a 9 ton paper weight.

What forms are required from the government (private sale between us citizens) and I imagine they require a serial number found on the vehicle? Do they require anything more than a bill of sale for the forms? ( off road use only)

Are there transportation companies you would recommend? That go through the eastern half of the US. That know of various state transportation restrictions and so on? I’d have to get a ball park estimate from them.

Thanks
Mike

 

[MikeMikeMike]

Thanks for the info. I’m going to go talk to my local construction transportation company today to see what they can do for me.