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My understanding of tire size was that 16.5 was less desirable mainly because of selection. Who has made the switch and was it worth it for other reasons?
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Are 16.5” rubbers really that bad?
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My understanding is that all the x.5" sizes are heavier duty than their x.0" size counterparts.
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I think that rim size is a late 70's carryover. Back then, 16.5 was common on pickups. Military carried the size along with the rest of the HMMWV heritage items (6.2/6.5 etc). I believe Goodyear and BF Goodrich know these tires are relied upon by our warfighters and hopefully put their best effort into manufacturing them. But then of course, there is the new MT/R demil order . . .
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Yes there are options enough to satisfy me selection wise. The wonderful company interco has us covered there. However many are bias ply which I don’t really have much experience with and also there’s some business with 16.5 rims not having a bead seat? I’m not sure why that characteristic would be inherent to the size but there’s much about tires and wheels I don’t know.
Interesitng anoth the half sizes being HD I also have some vague recollection of that as well.
Basically someday i want 40’s on my humvee and I’m just pondering the correct path to get there.
Interesitng anoth the half sizes being HD I also have some vague recollection of that as well.
Basically someday i want 40’s on my humvee and I’m just pondering the correct path to get there.
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"Are 16.5” rubbers really that bad?"
That depends on a few things and need.
That depends on a few things and need.
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I’ve always had great luck with them. Not the quietest or longest lasting though.
The military ordered some million or so pounds of them when they had the armored MRAPs blowing tires cause they couldn't handle the weight, then they realized the interco tires wouldn't do it either after they bought em all and so they burned a big storage area full of brand new ones just stacked up. This was in the sandbox i remind you.
Picture of one of a member here with 40s and you see him on a wrecker with broken stuff.
40s with a Tak 4 kit would not be too bad looking but it is too much tire for a stock truck
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the .5 is because the design of the tire is different. The 16.5 uses a flange that has a higher degree of taper. This is because it doesn't have a safety ledge to keep the tire against the wheel when you are running low air pressure. Which explains the bead locks. They are designed to be changed without a tire mounting machine.
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Basically someday i want 40’s on my humvee and I’m just pondering the correct path to get there.[/QUOTE]
You provoked me to go read and learn. The conclusions I drew were that if I were going to change wheels, or use tires sourced from somewhere besides milsurp, I'd go with something besides 16.5".
So I'm thinking the path to 40''s is a set of wheels and tires, probably 17". I think you want to keep a big squishy sidewall....
Mine will be staying on cheap milsurp 37's.
You provoked me to go read and learn. The conclusions I drew were that if I were going to change wheels, or use tires sourced from somewhere besides milsurp, I'd go with something besides 16.5".
So I'm thinking the path to 40''s is a set of wheels and tires, probably 17". I think you want to keep a big squishy sidewall....
Mine will be staying on cheap milsurp 37's.
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Found this. > https://dma.wi.gov/DMA/divisions/wem/1033/docs/Goodyear_SafetyMemo.pdf < Old news ? Maybe, but still good advice. When did the Planet ship HMMWV's with new tires? Check your dates / condition and drive / tow accordingly.
Something to think about, CAM
Something to think about, CAM
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A friend with the La National Guard also contacted me last week with the same info/warning on the goodyears as he was not sure which tires I was running.
Very interesting to see the Wisc memo also condemning the rims and drawing no distinction as to what type, 12 bolt or 24 bolt D & E. Sounds like a great deal for the OE manufacture of these wheels..... at taxpayer expense....
Very interesting to see the Wisc memo also condemning the rims and drawing no distinction as to what type, 12 bolt or 24 bolt D & E. Sounds like a great deal for the OE manufacture of these wheels..... at taxpayer expense....
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I don't think they were condemning the rims. New tires come as a tire / wheel assembly.
That is just them covering their butts. As of late though any MTR that has been blown out the military has been disposing of the wheel with the tire still mounted to it. They were told not to reuse them after a blowout
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Why would they want to reuse a wheel when the new tire comes mounted already? And if they come mounted why aren’t wheels nearly free for us?
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I’m seeing conflicting info there. The one source at Wisconsin claims the MT/R is the only ones affected by recall. The MT is fine? My MT are dated 2007 so that’s getting old but not ancient yet.
It is only the MTR. the thread that carnac started he thought it was for something else. It is ALL MTR's dated older than 5yrs. However most bases are only putting new stocks on.
Most tire manufacturers say 7 years. My guess is they are seeing problems with tires between 5 and 7. If your tires are from 2007, you are taking a huge risk driving on them. They may look ok on the surface, but when the tread can come flying off at any time. Considering how thin the metal is between your feet and the tire, it could be a nasty surprise.