Corn head grease in winch

[treeguy]

When draining any of the gear boxes of GL to replace with corn head, how concerned does one need to be with any residual GL? Does anyone flush it out with some magic fluid, or is pulling the plug suffecient? My concern would be the compatibility of the slight mix that would inevitibly happen.

 

[Floridianson]

Treeguy I just pulled the drain plug and went on to work on something else.
I myself would not worrie but if you are pull plug and let it drain over night.

 

[Troll1216]

How many tubes to fill the deuce steering box? This is my next project.

 

[m16ty]

How many tubes to fill the deuce steering box? This is my next project.

I filled mine but I don't recall. I know it was more than one because I remember changing tubes in the process.

I just removed the drain plug and the fill plug, threaded grease gun hose directly onto the drain hole, and filled it until grease came out the fill hole.

Treeguy, I wouldn't worry too much about getting every last drop out. If there's some left in there it will just thin the grease out a little.

 

[hilber]

Dayum, this is a classic... When I first read the title I thought it read "Corn Hole grease in Wench".

Dirt

ROFLMAO

 

[peashooter]

How many tubes to fill the deuce steering box? This is my next project.

I just did this today, it took 3-1/2 tubes filled from the bottom plug before grease started coming out the top plug. (I know this thread is old but hope this helps save someone else a second trip to the John Deere dealer to get 2 more tubes like I had to.)

 

[m715mike]

Corn Head

When draining any of the gear boxes of GL to replace with corn head, how concerned does one need to be with any residual GL? Does anyone flush it out with some magic fluid, or is pulling the plug suffecient? My concern would be the compatibility of the slight mix that would inevitibly happen.

Treeguy I just pulled the drain plug and went on to work on something else.
I myself would not worrie but if you are pull plug and let it drain over night.

Treeguy, I wouldn't worry too much about getting every last drop out. If there's some left in there it will just thin the grease out a little.

Granted, the title of this thread says "winch", but the conversation has expanded to include steering gear boxes. I've read a number of these threads and found this one to be the best. That's why I'm posting here.

I found a red-colored fluid dripping from beneath my steering gear box last weekend. After contacting the previous owner, I learned that the steering gear box was filled with Lucas Transmission Fix (pictured below).



I drained the steering gear box this evening and will let it drip-dry over night. Then I plan to fill the gear box with John Deere Corn Head Grease. The conventional wisdom in this thread says it's ok to mix the residual "GL" (gear lube or gear oil???) in the steering gear box with the corn head grease. Does that apply to Lucas Transmission Fix, or do I need to flush the steering gear box before filling it with corn head grease? If so, what would you use to flush the gear box, and are there any tricks I should know?


And Peashooter, thank you! This was another question I had:

I just did this today, it took 3-1/2 tubes filled from the bottom plug before grease started coming out the top plug. (I know this thread is old but hope this helps save someone else a second trip to the John Deere dealer to get 2 more tubes like I had to.)

 

[Jeepsinker]

Leave the Lucas in there just the same as residual gear oil. That Lucas is good stuff. Brake parts cleaner won't even take Lucas off.

 

[tennmogger]

what is corn head grease? is it the same weight as reg grease?

Corn Head Grease is just a nickname for grease with an NLGI index/viscosity number of 0 (zero). If you search on NLGI 0 there are lots of names for it, plenty of info, and many sources. I buy mine online because the JD dealer is 30 miles away, and rather proud of their stuff.

Bob

 

[Floridianson]

I have used the stuff Napa sells and is 00. Trim line or something like is what it is called and easy to use has a tip spout on top.

 

[frank8003]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwk_sYP6A8

 

[Seth_O]

For those of you who have been using cornhead grease in your winches - do you replace it? Worried about how I would drain & replace it if its too thick to flow? My knuckles I have to tear down and wipe it all off to replace it. I know this isn't that thick, but I don't trust that it 'never' has to be replaced. It will pick up contaminants over time......

 

[mkcoen]

What's a ballpark price per tube? One place I found was $3.50 per 14oz but wasn't sure if that was better/worse than going to the dealer. Still going to have shipping added to it ($9/10 pack) so if it'd be cheaper at JD dealer will try that instead.

 

[dmetalmiki]

Amazing stuff grease. I filled the front tractor joints, Gearbox, transfer, and steering box on my WW11 jeep with moly grease in the 70s! still going fine. Does the propshafts, speedo cable ,anything that slides or moves!. That old WW11 jeep been all round the world in all climates. In fact That same grease is in the rear underfloor garwood winch fitted to the jeep, and that has done some serious pulling and work over the years.

 

[m16ty]

I haven't really thought about changing it but no more winching than most people do, it should last a long, long time.

This is just a educated guess but I'd say you could probably pour some diesel in there, run it a little to mix it up, and the diesel would dilute it enough where it would run out the drain.

I don't recall what I paid for the last I bought (it's been awhile) but I can say from experience that almost anywhere is going to be cheaper than a JD dealer (except maybe a Cat dealer). Just about all the lubricant brands have the "corn head" grease available, they just call it something else. I think "flowable" grease is the generic term used. Now JD does claim that their grease is the best, and it may be, but you have to consider the source of the information.

 

[welldigger]

I haven't really thought about changing it but no more winching than most people do, it should last a long, long time.

This is just a educated guess but I'd say you could probably pour some diesel in there, run it a little to mix it up, and the diesel would dilute it enough where it would run out the drain.

I don't recall what I paid for the last I bought (it's been awhile) but I can say from experience that almost anywhere is going to be cheaper than a JD dealer (except maybe a Cat dealer). Just about all the lubricant brands have the "corn head" grease available, they just call it something else. I think "flowable" grease is the generic term used. Now JD does claim that their grease is the best, and it may be, but you have to consider the source of the information.

At my local jd dealer it was about $3.50 per tube.

If you want to drain this stuff out of whatever you put it in all you need to do is add heat. This stuff will flow if heated. So maybe set one of those gas mr. Buddy heaters next to the winch with the drain plug out? I don't see why that wouldn't work.

 

[Gastrap]

Deere doesn't have a recommended service interval for row unit gear cases, we just top them off every year. These have an input shaft speed of about 500 RPM and run thousands of hours in their life. I wouldn't worry about changing it in a winch or steering gear. The AN102562 Deere grease is a polyurea base, and flows better than farm store brands.

 

[Floridianson]

Or at least look at the stuff NAPA sells as it is a 00 grease and comes in a nice bottle with tip spout. It's called Trim-line and they all have it. I have put it in winches and stearing box and no leaks. Just as good for the winches as anything else.

 

[Seth_O]

Anyone ever put this in their diff? I have a persistently leaky diff (at the axle seal), and wondering if this is a good solution for that. That is a much higher RPM application though. Everything I have read about it is for low-speed uses - although admittedly I know nothing about the farm equipment this is used in.

 

[welldigger]

Anyone ever put this in their diff? I have a persistently leaky diff (at the axle seal), and wondering if this is a good solution for that. That is a much higher RPM application though. Everything I have read about it is for low-speed uses - although admittedly I know nothing about the farm equipment this is used in.

No. This is not suitable for use in a differential.