deuce hyd power steering

[xoddah]

I just ...got ... 2 m211's full restorations nice will post pictures another time
digging through a shop full of stuff I see this steer box... I go to SS
looking for this... thread after steering the 2 beasts out of someones back yard and say...
wow that was tough Question is will the "KIT" avail its self to a 1952 m211 gasser and any idea what the steer box I have is

 

[silverstate55]

Xoddah, how did you get that photo of my supervisors (your avatar)????

 

[wilsonmotors]

Hello All! I did my homework and read on here for a few hours before I decided to post my question. I recently had the good fortune to salvage some parts off of a M543A2W Wrecker (do not know why the 3 is in there). The pump is a Ross HF64-R. Has anyone had any luck with this model installing on the Deuce? The tank was mounted to the fender. Bracket has a doubler that mounted it at the top of the frame. Thanks in advance for any input. Great site!!

Had to bring up a old post but I just got the same stuff ross hf64 and the vickers pump and complete column for my m35a2 can I use all of this or just the pump

 

[wilsonmotors]

this is the gear box

 

[Jeepsinker]

Does it say HF54 on it anywhere? It looks like a 5 ton steering box to me, which won't work right. But if it is an HF54 it'll work.

 

[wilsonmotors]

It says hf64 and has 4 ports to also run a ram off of it to. It is from a multifuel 5t but as far as I can tell it's the same as a hf54.

 

[Jeepsinker]

No, it won't work. It is too big. One class size up from the hf54. The 54 mounts inside the frame rail, the 64 won't.

What you have is a standard 5 ton steering box.

 

[m-35tom]

right, the HF64 is way bigger than the 54. it is huge and will not fit

 

[wilsonmotors]

So if I get a hf54 all of the column that I got with the hf64 will work? All i need is to get the hf 54 and I have a complete kit right?

 

[Jeepsinker]

No, almost but not quite. The least you are looking at is an additional several hundred bucks in hydraulic hoses, as well as box bracketry and a fluid reservoir. Go to waterloospecialties.com and check out Tom's powere steering kit, then just imagine all that with your steering box instead of his and you'll get a better idea of what you are looking at.

 

[m-35tom]

the yokes will be different, the 54 control valve works by moving in and out so you need the correct joint to allow that, plus res, pump, pittman arm and drag link. etc

 

[wilsonmotors]

I have the pump and a resivor hoses I can get made but what arm and drag link do i need for the hf54

 

[Jeepsinker]

You have to make your own. Puts a lot of liability on you even if you are a certified welder. You should look at Gringeltaube's thread on the hf54 steering conversion. It is very detailed with lots of pictures.

 

[JasonS]

No, almost but not quite. The least you are looking at is an additional several hundred bucks in hydraulic hoses, as well as box bracketry and a fluid reservoir. Go to waterloospecialties.com and check out Tom's powere steering kit, then just imagine all that with your steering box instead of his and you'll get a better idea of what you are looking at.

It won't require several hundred dollars in hoses and it won't require welding to install the hf54.

 

[Jeepsinker]

The pitman arm Gerhard had to build to make it work was cut and welded together. Is there another option?

 

[JasonS]

The pitman arm Gerhard had to build to make it work was cut and welded together. Is there another option?[/QUOTE

Don't cut and weld; leave as-is.

 

[gringeltaube]

The very first I did was left stock. Not ideal, but it still works.



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