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James, if you've got the time to waste, have at it.
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And what are you going to complain about? Not to be a jerk - but you just said that the truck was in great shape. You also said it started and ran well enough you were going to drive it home. I really hate to hear of the bad luck that you had, but these are the perils of buying surplus direct. Sometimes you hit the jackpot, othertimes you just pump your money in the OD slot machine.
Went through the same thing years ago with DRMO - bought a great lucking truck, hauled a pair of batterie up to Campbell, checked everything out, through the batteries in and it lit right off - put it in gear, wouldn't move out of its tracks - clutch totally gone. The came the hiring of the flatbed.
Hope you get it fixed soon, and enjoy what sounds like a super good truck.
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January 9th, 2009.
Oh Ye of little faith!
The man bought a piece of junk from GL....... If it needs only the oil cooler replaced to make it run, then quit yer "itchin! If you bid more then bottom line scrap on the truck, then you took yourself to the cleaners.... After all, these aren't new trucks and aren't expected to be, they came off a dead line and they have all the usual ills of an ancient machine hard used. the old latin term "Caveat Emptor" applies here today. If you're really lucky, GL'll send you and OD surplus towel to weep upon.
Just my .02, take it for what it's worth and learn better next time......
Cheers,
Kyle F. McGrogan
Oh Ye of little faith!
The man bought a piece of junk from GL....... If it needs only the oil cooler replaced to make it run, then quit yer "itchin! If you bid more then bottom line scrap on the truck, then you took yourself to the cleaners.... After all, these aren't new trucks and aren't expected to be, they came off a dead line and they have all the usual ills of an ancient machine hard used. the old latin term "Caveat Emptor" applies here today. If you're really lucky, GL'll send you and OD surplus towel to weep upon.
Just my .02, take it for what it's worth and learn better next time......
Cheers,
Kyle F. McGrogan
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Runs and drives. 
I am sure they did not say for how long. While I really hate defending GL they are not a car lot. They give no warranty at all. I hate to hear about the problem with the truck but those are the breaks when we go for the GL price instead of the Memphis Equipment price. At least that sounds like it will be an easy fix. I would not run it at all until you get it fixed. Coolant might also be leaking into the oil and diluting it.
Sorry but GL gives us enough to legitimately complain about. In this case I don't think you have a legit complaint.
I am sure they did not say for how long. While I really hate defending GL they are not a car lot. They give no warranty at all. I hate to hear about the problem with the truck but those are the breaks when we go for the GL price instead of the Memphis Equipment price. At least that sounds like it will be an easy fix. I would not run it at all until you get it fixed. Coolant might also be leaking into the oil and diluting it. Sorry but GL gives us enough to legitimately complain about. In this case I don't think you have a legit complaint.
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I sent in the complaint anyway......Now!
James
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Oil Cooler for sure.
Good Luck and enjoy!! Vinny
Good Luck and enjoy!! Vinny
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Let us know what if any response you get.
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Oil Cooler
Anyone know the part number for the civi oil cooler on the 818? The surplus guys told me to just pickup one locally? I want to but they want engine number/serial numbers to match the cooler? I want to go pickup the truck Sat., time is short!
James G.
PS: No response yet from GL
Anyone know the part number for the civi oil cooler on the 818? The surplus guys told me to just pickup one locally? I want to but they want engine number/serial numbers to match the cooler? I want to go pickup the truck Sat., time is short!
James G.
PS: No response yet from GL
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Here's the CPL and engine number from my 816, they are all the same.
Model - NHC-250
CPL - 0026
Engine# - 10950874
Later,
Joe
Model - NHC-250
CPL - 0026
Engine# - 10950874
Later,
Joe
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Thanks Joe, this will speed up the process!
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818 Is Home
After our fourth trip to Hooks we were successful. We traveled down with genset, pump and 55 gallons of water. Picked up all our o rings and gaskets in Little Rock on the way down. Pulled the old cooler cleaned up the block and tried for two hours to mount it my the book. Gasket on the block along with an oring and brass crush ring on the cooler, never worked until I threw the crush ring into the pasture then everything went to gather in ten minutes! Rinsed her out twice with Cascade producing thirty gallons of really gray water. Filled her one last time and started out for home, 4.5 hours and 240 miles later we made it with no incident! In fifth gear with my foot on the floor at 2000rpm we motored along at 52 miles per hour. Seemed slow and idles very slow around 4-500 rpm. A few things to look at now that she is home, a real relief.
James G.
After our fourth trip to Hooks we were successful. We traveled down with genset, pump and 55 gallons of water. Picked up all our o rings and gaskets in Little Rock on the way down. Pulled the old cooler cleaned up the block and tried for two hours to mount it my the book. Gasket on the block along with an oring and brass crush ring on the cooler, never worked until I threw the crush ring into the pasture then everything went to gather in ten minutes! Rinsed her out twice with Cascade producing thirty gallons of really gray water. Filled her one last time and started out for home, 4.5 hours and 240 miles later we made it with no incident! In fifth gear with my foot on the floor at 2000rpm we motored along at 52 miles per hour. Seemed slow and idles very slow around 4-500 rpm. A few things to look at now that she is home, a real relief.
James G.
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I for one have been around a couple of Cummins in my time and understand the problem with the oil cooler leaking. And lining up the timing marks on the cooler is crucial. They can go on you when you don't expect it.
Joe
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You have to get a picture of your new truck with that little trailer you have hooked to it.
Glad to hear success.
Glad to hear success.
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How much were the rings? I have a box full sitting here.
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Too Bad for Me
GL's response was the same as the last two times I complained, TOO BAD TOO SAD, AS IS, WHERE IS! I am pretty well done with GL, I have the trucks I have wanted and they are so poorly run I am going GSA from now own, no fees, you get your title when you pay, and they don't jack with you the way GL does!
Robb I will see what Cummings charged me for the o rings or the brass crush ring?
James
PS: A good picture is going to be my new Lubrication trailer behind the M543, once i get them both painted that is!
GL's response was the same as the last two times I complained, TOO BAD TOO SAD, AS IS, WHERE IS! I am pretty well done with GL, I have the trucks I have wanted and they are so poorly run I am going GSA from now own, no fees, you get your title when you pay, and they don't jack with you the way GL does!
Robb I will see what Cummings charged me for the o rings or the brass crush ring?
James
PS: A good picture is going to be my new Lubrication trailer behind the M543, once i get them both painted that is!
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Brass crush rings.
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When I pulled the oil cooler off the block there was a brass/copper crush ring on the bottom ob the oil cooler element. No o ring just this crush ring fitting flush with the bottom of the cooler, there was also a good gasket there too. We tried to use the gasket, o ring and crush ring but could never get a seal, the crush ring was too thick for the gasket to seal. So I lost the crush ring and everything fit fine, We do have a little oil weeping through one of the bolt holes, i assume the locktite failed after we tried mounting the thing 20 times?
I looked up the cost on the o ring was $1.74 and the crush ring was $11.26.
James
When I pulled the oil cooler off the block there was a brass/copper crush ring on the bottom ob the oil cooler element. No o ring just this crush ring fitting flush with the bottom of the cooler, there was also a good gasket there too. We tried to use the gasket, o ring and crush ring but could never get a seal, the crush ring was too thick for the gasket to seal. So I lost the crush ring and everything fit fine, We do have a little oil weeping through one of the bolt holes, i assume the locktite failed after we tried mounting the thing 20 times?
I looked up the cost on the o ring was $1.74 and the crush ring was $11.26.
James