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flame throwing deuce

SETOYOTA

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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: flame throwing deuce

well if your going to do it, install an additional stack and shoot fire out of both them.
 

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For show purposes and not to mess with the engine at all you can run lines from a propane tank into the stacks and hide an ignitor. Then just flip the switch and adjust the value of the propane with the throttle.

I remember reading that the gas engines with the flamethrowers puts alot of wear on the seals and other compoents in the engine. Thats what stoped me from doing it to my vehicle. Good luck hope to see some pics of it. :-D
 

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here ya go

Ok,so they ain't deuces or for the most part road vehicles.....and most are the result of blown turbos or crappy GE designs and failed fuel system parts.......Warning,some vids have foul language.....can't anyone post vids without sounding like a sailor anymore?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSJw8AhtdrA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYpXwLg5GeM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT1Cisg4ukI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mofH790DEk8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4zbDzYf0YM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-TFQc3IdVo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v36MCcRPRTc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRTsLeaZTAo
 

FreightTrain

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I wonder how a Ford Afterburner works?I know it is an injector but I wonder if it is computer controled like the ones under the hood......Maybe someone can modify them to make stack fires.....
 

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I wonder how a Ford Afterburner works?I know it is an injector but I wonder if it is computer controled like the ones under the hood......Maybe someone can modify them to make stack fires.....
i would bet its computer controlled because you wouldn't want it raging out of control

that would be a funny sight to see if that happened and it wasn't your truck

rofl
 

FreightTrain

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cause they would work great for a short period of time before the injector would stick open(ummmm,injector.....soot.....heat.....duhhh) and leak fuel into the Particulate trap.So when it went to burn the soot(now sludge) the injector would light the fuel soaked soot and being as it was stuck open it wouldn't stop burning between injection Cycles(the knocking you hear) and continue to the burn.
 

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cause they would work great for a short period of time before the injector would stick open(ummmm,injector.....soot.....heat.....duhhh) and leak fuel into the Particulate trap.So when it went to burn the soot(now sludge) the injector would light the fuel soaked soot and being as it was stuck open it wouldn't stop burning between injection Cycles(the knocking you hear) and continue to the burn.
wow

scary though

wouldn't it burn all the way back up to the engine or turbo?

or would it just burn out of the exaust
 

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The injector is about midship.On new diesels there is O2 sensors,Cats,then another O2 sensor,a particulate trap with injector in it and sensors.The particulate trap catches the carbon(or smoke) and every X hours it turns on the injector and burns the carbon out or if hte sensor tells the truck,"Hey,it's Clogged".The after burner uses up a LOT of diesel fuel so that is one of the main reasons for Ultra low MPG now days.....and in the next year or two(can't remember if it was '10 or '11) they will have to install a Urea sprayer on the exhaust that has to be refilled at the stealership every oil change.If the tank runs out the computer shuts the truck down and won't allow it to run period.
 

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The injector is about midship.On new diesels there is O2 sensors,Cats,then another O2 sensor,a particulate trap with injector in it and sensors.The particulate trap catches the carbon(or smoke) and every X hours it turns on the injector and burns the carbon out or if hte sensor tells the truck,"Hey,it's Clogged".The after burner uses up a LOT of diesel fuel so that is one of the main reasons for Ultra low MPG now days.....and in the next year or two(can't remember if it was '10 or '11) they will have to install a Urea sprayer on the exhaust that has to be refilled at the stealership every oil change.If the tank runs out the computer shuts the truck down and won't allow it to run period.

that would just tick off everyone if they have to go to a dealer every few months for a refill on something that might not be needed
 

FreightTrain

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well,it is comming and is comming cause of LAWS.Gotta meet Kalifornicates insane enviromental requirements.That is why when you go to price a truck it cost 10,000 bucks more for a diesel than it does a gasser.
 

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So they are tryng to make diesels suck more fuel with all this emissions crap, it looks like. what would be the point of having one?
 

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The flames aren't normal on the railroad locomotives. It happens on older units with mechanical governors. What happens is the governor responds to the throttle changes faster than the turbo can keep up. The governor opens up the injectors to the higher throttle setting efore the turbo gets the boost up. Too much fuel plus not enough air equals yellow flames and LOTS of black smoke. The newer locomotives with the computer controlled electronic fuel injection compensate by limiting the fuel until the boost catches up. Not as photogenic but not as wasteful either. An important consideration when just one large terminal locomotive service facility can tear through 3.5 to 4 million gallons a MONTH. How'd you like to pay that bill?
 

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The flames aren't normal on the railroad locomotives. It happens on older units with mechanical governors. What happens is the governor responds to the throttle changes faster than the turbo can keep up. The governor opens up the injectors to the higher throttle setting efore the turbo gets the boost up. Too much fuel plus not enough air equals yellow flames and LOTS of black smoke. The newer locomotives with the computer controlled electronic fuel injection compensate by limiting the fuel until the boost catches up. Not as photogenic but not as wasteful either. An important consideration when just one large terminal locomotive service facility can tear through 3.5 to 4 million gallons a MONTH. How'd you like to pay that bill?
wow good point!

You don't see it happening to locos these days that much anyways
 
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