Foreign Objects in oil pan (see pic) NEED HELP

[Breach27]

Hey guys, I need some help. I went to change the oil on my new duece and found three mangled springs, a small metal tube, and at least two gallons of diesel fuel in the oil. Anybody got any ideas. Just bought it and was checking it out before I took to the road.

 

[Breach27]

Another pic

 

[patracy]

Tube - oil squirter
spring - oil seal spring (looks like there's some seal rubber there too)
Diesel fuel - Non bypassed FDC.

 

[Breach27]

I appreciate the help, so I just need to bypass the FDC and replace the squirter?

 

[nf6x]

Did you include the quarter as a size reference, or is your truck paying out?

 

[doghead]

In the first pic, one item looks like a quarter! I'd drop the oil pan and hope you hit the jackpot!

 

[Breach27]

Lol. I wish. Quarter was only for size reference

 

[nf6x]

I pour lots of money into my HMMWV, but I haven't seen any come out yet.

 

[Cycletek]

My truck pays off every time I drive it, smiles per mile!

 

[Breach27]

I can bypass the FDC, no probs (found tons of info). But I cannot find anything on the oil squirter.

 

[SCSG-G4]

replacing the 'squirter' involves dropping the pan, finding which cylinder it broke off from (and why), replacing it, and maybe fixing some other things while the bottom is exposed.

 

[Breach27]

What oil seal would that be? And thanks for the help guys. Will bypass the fdc tomorrow and see what happens.

 

[gimpyrobb]

I am betting if an oil squirter has been knocked out, that is a piston ring.

 

[m16ty]

I am betting if an oil squirter has been knocked out, that is a piston ring.

I think Gimpy may be right. That spring looks like the spring inside a oil ring. I'd drop the pan and look real good at everything before I ran it any more.

 

[Breach27]

Ok, got the FDC blocked off and changed oil and filters. Buddy of mine dropped the pan and checked everything out. Can't figure out what broke the squirter off. We buttoned it up and gonna make sure the FDC was the problem. My mechanic helping me said not to worry about then portion of the squirter broke off. He said he wold be worried if the trucked worked ecery day loaded, but said it would be fine. Does anyone see any future problems coming from not replacing the squirter?

 

[m16ty]

You really need to replace the squirter. That cylinder will run hotter than the others and the oil helps to make the piston expand more evenly when it warms up. You'll more than likely have piston problems in the cylinder over the long run.

You also haven't found out where the spring came from. You need that spring wherever it came from. If it's a oil ring (which I suspect), you've probably got cylinder and/or piston damage and that hole will burn oil like crazy.

There's no way I'd run that engine without getting a good look at the cylinder the squirter broke off of. I had a truck that the piston and cylinder broke apart. It ruined much more than just that cylinder.

 

[Breach27]

Thanks M16ty, I will have him pull the pan and replace the squirter. I though that might be the case, but wanted me ducks in a row before I speak to my buddy. I figured it was there for a reason. When you say oil seal, which one do you mean. I can handle alot of stuff on the truck, just not the motor issues.

 

[Seth_O]

Keep a close eye on your diesel content in the oil. I pulled several gallons of diesel out of my oilpan and it all came from the hydraulic head.

 

[m16ty]

Thanks M16ty, I will have him pull the pan and replace the squirter. I though that might be the case, but wanted me ducks in a row before I speak to my buddy. I figured it was there for a reason. When you say oil seal, which one do you mean. I can handle alot of stuff on the truck, just not the motor issues.

I'm talking about the piston oil ring. Here are some pics. These are not deuce rings or pistons but you get the picture.

 

[Breach27]

Got it now, thanks. Brain Fart, I guess. Thanks to everyone for their help.