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Hard Starting (sorta)

khamill2000

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84 CUCV will not start unless I give it 1/2-3/4 pedal while cranking. Once started it runs fine. None of my other diesels require any pedal. Any idea what is causing this and how to remedy?
 

khamill2000

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Air filter, fuel filter, battery strength and starter condition. Plus the already mentioned glow plugs.
All are new except the fuel filter. I had to use it on my 87 and haven’t bought another yet. I’ll get it ordered. Starter is a Powermaster that spins it really well.
 

87cr250r

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At 40F the truck manual recommends holding the pedal at 1/2 throttle during start.

At 90F it will start without the glow plugs of you hold the throttle at 1/2.

It sounds like you have a glow plug problem. Can you hear the relay cycling during a start?
 

khamill2000

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At 40F the truck manual recommends holding the pedal at 1/2 throttle during start.

At 90F it will start without the glow plugs of you hold the throttle at 1/2.

It sounds like you have a glow plug problem. Can you hear the relay cycling during a start?
Relay is cycling and new filter is ordered.
I went ahead and started it today without using the pedal. Temp was about 85 and it took about 5 seconds of cranking before it would fire and 8-10 before it started.
 

87cr250r

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Relay is cycling and new filter is ordered.
I went ahead and started it today without using the pedal. Temp was about 85 and it took about 5 seconds of cranking before it would fire and 8-10 before it started.
That sounds like 8 burned out glow plugs. You have an ohmmeter?
 

khamill2000

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Was kind of waiting for further instruction (to replace the 2 defective glow plugs) but I went ahead and did it anyway. Both tested bad out of the vehicle as well. This can be considered resolved. Ambient temp of 78 and fired right up with no pedal. Mr Barman, thank you for the mentoring. My apologies for my tardiness in updating. I have several more 6.2 and 6.5 projects I am working.

Follow up statement and questions: both glow plugs came out rather easily. I bought the extractor from Leroy Diesel but once they were broke loose (which hardly took any effort), I was able to spin them out with fingers.
Q1: should I replace the rest of them?
Q2: How can I identify the glow plugs I removed? AC DELCO 0 100 271 107 10.5V
 

Mullaney

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Was kind of waiting for further instruction (to replace the 2 defective glow plugs) but I went ahead and did it anyway. Both tested bad out of the vehicle as well. This can be considered resolved. Ambient temp of 78 and fired right up with no pedal. Mr Barman, thank you for the mentoring. My apologies for my tardiness in updating. I have several more 6.2 and 6.5 projects I am working.

Follow up statement and questions: both glow plugs came out rather easily. I bought the extractor from Leroy Diesel but once they were broke loose (which hardly took any effort), I was able to spin them out with fingers.
Q1: should I replace the rest of them?
Q2: How can I identify the glow plugs I removed? AC DELCO 0 100 271 107 10.5V
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Everybody has an opinion, but if you know you had two bad GP's and replaced them - and you tested and the others are functioning - I'm not sure if it was my money I would replace working GP's.
 
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