Head gasket repair walk through - go to post #31!

baxter · Mar 15, 2010

thats along time to be out of commision good luck and get her back on the road. [thumbzup]

Smallblockfuelie · Feb 25, 2013

Thanks for taking the time to put this together!

cattlerepairman · Feb 25, 2013

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?102749-Head-gasket-replacement-tips-and-tricks

some concurrent info in the Modding forum.

Diecorpse · Apr 15, 2013

Head gasket. . Replacong the one on my m35 with the multifuel. I have been taking lots of photos as I go. I will upload them when finished. Also I talked to a mechanic at D and D equipment ( great place to go for repairs and modifications for your truck, located in Big Rapids, MI) and he will try to email me step by step instructions for head gasket replacement from a Hercules repair manual. When I get that, I will either try to upload it for all to see or will find a way for everybody to access it. So far I have spent about five to six hpur and I have the heads loosend but I need a couple tools to remove the exhast manifold and the he
ad bolts on the side by the fuel injector. I wish anybody who does it themselves the best of luck.

Diecorpse · Apr 15, 2013

Note: For someone who hadn't done a head gasket yet, I can give a list of some of the tools required.
1/2 drive rachet
9/16 socket
11/16 socket
7/8 socket
11/16 wrench with offset closed end
3/4 ratchet for head bolts
Small and large regular screwdriver
Extensions short and long for 1/2 drive
Containers for bolt seperation
Penetrating oil
Lots and lots of patience, music, and smokes!!

cattlerepairman · Dec 26, 2015

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?148514-Head-Gasket-Repair (lino gives a good walk-through with all tools required)

KS80537 · Apr 4, 2018

Is it just me, or do almost none of the links in the original post work?

frank8003 · Apr 4, 2018

Correct, no workie, and post is only eight years old.
We all wish it could be saved.
I did read how to get to the original link but I have now forgotten, I got the CRS.

cattlerepairman · Apr 4, 2018

I will revive all the links.

I found that the trick is to take the dead link...e.g. https://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/46425-head-gasket-what-else-check.html?highlight=head+gasket

Then use a new first part:https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?

.....and add, after the question mark, the second part from the defunct link that starts with the number:https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?46425-head-gasket-what-else-check.html

That's it.

DavidWymore · Oct 19, 2018

Need HG TM...is there a way to fix all the broken links?

cattlerepairman · Oct 19, 2018

https://www.steelsoldiers.com/showt...t-repair-walk-through-collection-of-info-2018

USMCGunny · Dec 24, 2019

cattlerepairman said:
What I am interested in - and probably other newbies that have not done a head gasket job on a multi - are tips for what to do and what not to do and how to do it, from people that have done this job.

I would like this to turn into a walk-through for the head gasket job. Seeing that you clicked on this thread, it is likely that you either need this info or that you can contribute.

The TM for multi engine repair speaks to the teardown and re-assembly process. As I know from many other jobs, there are different ways for getting the work done right. If you work in an armed forces garage overhauling an engine, with access to whatever tools you need and ample time on your hands, it may be worthwhile to disassemble everything, as per TM. Experienced mechanics here on SS may be able to tell first timers, how to do a good job without getting themselves into a mess.

Some things I throw out there:

- removing valve train, yes or no? Can I leave the guts of the head intact?
- someone removed heads with manifolds, turbo etc. left attached. Advisable?
- details on block surface prepping; scotchbrite pads a no-no?
- when using m35-tom's new style head gaskets, is there any additional coating (Permatex; if so, which one?) advisable? All around or just certain areas?
- head bolt wrench; I saw many home-made ingenious solutions and a suggestion to use a 7/8 sensor socket.

I collected threads that contain some information, many are really useful, but none is "THE" authoritative thread on doing this job. My theory is that if there are so many threads on one subject, none of them has all the needed info!

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/1989-head-gasket-leak.html?highlight=head+gasket+leak
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/46425-head-gasket-what-else-check.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/46285-better-long-life-head-gaskets.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/40794-radiator-head-gasket-problem.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/...-oil-leak-question.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/44735-multifuel-head-gaskets.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/43935-bad-head-gasket.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/42476-white-smoke-need-assistance.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/40801-blown-head-gasket.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/24022-white-smoke-noise.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/38174-guess-who-needs-headgasket.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/35604-bad-head-gasket.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/28659-headgaskets.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/...e-lash-info-needed.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/23225-valve-cover-gasket-leaking-again.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/21255-head-gasket-replacement.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/16709-redoing-m35a2-headgasket.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/11295-all-freeze-plug.html
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/15298-gasket-time.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/11342-465-head-gasket-retorques.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/10460-head-gaskets.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/3182-head-gasket-problem-perhaps-not.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/8698-multifuel-head-gaskets.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/5909-head-gasket-questions.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/5757-blown-head-gasket-help.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/4783-head-gasket.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/2480-head-gasket-repair.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/1384-head-gasket-questions.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/...-158-lbs-ldt-465-a.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/49298-head-gaskets-freeze-plugs-begins.html (Garandfan changes his head gasket)
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/52752-yet-another-blown-head-gasket.html
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/5-ton-up/26842-lds-465-1a-inframe-headgasket-job-pictures.html (gimpyrobb does the job on a 5-ton LDS Multifuel; same thing at that level)
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/52752-yet-another-blown-head-gasket.html
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/65455-i-start-changing-out-head-gaskets-today.html (dabtl's head gasket job and home-made tool)
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/69213-changing-head-gaskets-dual-egt-gauge-test-program.html (fire ring embedded in head; advice on installing pre and post pyrometer while heads are off)

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/29647-cylinder-head-wrench.html
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/93-head-bolt-tool-worth-having.html?highlight=head+gasket
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/46818-check-out-my-new-tool.html (how to make a head bolt tool, how to calculate torque for offset tools)
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/46390-photos-my-truck-2.html
http://www.bunkerofdoom.com/travel/steelsoldiers1/20061027/index.html (old and new style gasket side by side)
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/attachments/deuce/124833d1243124843-bad-head-gasket-deuce-052.avi (blown head gasket video with sound)

Looks like many of the links are no longer available

WillWagner · Dec 25, 2019

I think it is because the site has gone through a few migrations.

cattlerepairman · Dec 25, 2019

Post #31.....the links work. I have no way of editing the original post.

helm1008 · Jan 2, 2021

Hello can anyone point me in the right direction to crossrefrance gasket part numbers ? I'm getting ready to change head gasket, I'm trying to get all my gaskets and parts ready and in order before i start job.

WillWagner · Jan 2, 2021

I would go to SECO and get their set with the new style head gaskets. It is a complete engine gasket set, but it is worth it to have everything you need. I think they are around $280 ish. MAake sure you get the new style, modern style, 1 piece gaskets. No need to re torque, permaseal around coolant and oil passages.

WillWagner · Jan 2, 2021

Couldn't find it on their site, but I know they sell on flea pay. Try calling them.

LDT 465 ENGINE NEW GASKET KIT M54 M35a2 Deuce Multifuel Military 6x6 5 Ton Truck | eBay

NOS LDT 465 Engine Gasket Set. Works with 2.5 deuce and 5 Ton Trucks with Continental, Hercules or White Multi-Fuel Diesel Engine. Gasket Kit. W/ 2ea Multi-Fuel Engine Head Gasket with Integral Fire Ring.

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helm1008 · Jan 2, 2021

WillWagner
That is the kit i have now. I just dont know what gaskets go to what model number on the picture i posted.

clinto · Jan 2, 2021

helm1008 said:
WillWagner
That is the kit i have now. I just dont know what gaskets go to what model number on the picture i posted.

The vast, vast majority of that kit is not going to be used for the head gasket job.

You'll only use:
Head gaskets (x2)
Road draft tube to valve cover gasket (x1)
Valve cover gaskets (x2)
Water manifold gaskets (x6)
Intake and exhaust manifold gasket (x1 I think)
Turbo to exhaust manifold gasket (x1)

You should also do all your freeze plugs in the heads.

All this for a freeze plug?!

So I was getting ready for a paint job before Aberdeen and I had just finished doing 2 pinion seals, transfer case input and output seals and a transmission output seals. I put it all back together and went for a test drive on a Friday night as I was taking a 50 mile trip the next day. About 5...

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Menaces Nemesis · Jan 2, 2021

If you're trying to make sure that the kit has all the gaskets needed for the job, none are missing, and you want to set them aside and have them ready before you start the job, just take a printout of the respective pages from the TM for head gasket replacement, along with the gasket kit, out to the truck with you. You can walk through the install pages, pulling and matching gaskets/shapes/sizes from the kit as you go. Like Clinto said, there's a whole bunch of gaskets in the kit you won't use for the job, and standing there looking at the engine it should be very obvious which gaskets are used for the heads, manifolds, and periphery. If the little crush washers that seal the injectors to the heads arent too badly battered, they can be re-used by annealing them... just heat them up to a medium cherry red with a torch, and let them air-cool, no need to quench them.

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