here we go again with the snow

[Monster Man]

these pics are from last week, but we're getting an even worse storm as we speak. I was born and raised here and have never seen 1 storm that dumped as much in one day as this, let alone two weeks in a row. It's usually dry powder, not this wet snow we've seen <img src="emoticons/icon_smilie_bitchin.gif" alt="Bitchin">

the deuce eats it up though

<img src="http://www.buschandbusch.com/snow.jpg" border="0">


<img src="http://www.buschandbusch.com/snow1.jpg" border="0">

from the garage, what a wakeup call:
<img src="http://www.buschandbusch.com/snow2.jpg" border="0">
can't even see the windshield!

wipers working REAL well as you can see, and no air power to boot. So what were those replacements.......
<img src="http://www.buschandbusch.com/goodvisibility.jpg" border="0">

 

[Recovry4x4]

Lance, this just might be the most fun one can have. Deuces on snow can be a real blast. Man am I jealous. I think I'm going to preposition a deuce next year so that when it snows up north I can fly up and have a blast!

 

[Monster Man]

it definitely is fun. My observations about the deuce in the snow (and this is only four wheel drive) is that it does OK. I mean, it'll get there, but it might take some back and forth if you get stuck, or even the shovel. That only happens when you try to show off, like drive through the center of a snow pile in a parking lot. "Nah, it'll never get stuck, it's a DEUCE!" Hah, dig quick before people start to congregate to laugh at you <img src="emoticons/icon_smile_approve.gif" alt="Approve">

It's easy to stop, well, easier than you'd think just because all the tires in contact dig to the surface and/or plow you to a stop. But, it doesn't steer too hot, those tires are attrocious, and the suspension doesn't soak up ice berm bumps too well!

My biggest dissapointment is that you can't kick the back end out, I mean, if you get going and really lay some power to it it'll shift right or left, but I love to use the snow like it's a dirt track and I'm in a sprint car. No can deuce, so to speak

 

[stefos]

Lance. You live in Deuce paradice man. I hope you have the best rides on this snow. Those are pictures that my wife and five children must see.

 

[jeepthrills]

Believe it or not, My deuce would not go in the snow. Granted I am still running without front wheel drive, but even in 8 inches of unpacked snow , all she would do is spin. I actually had to use my lil ol CJ7 to yank it out of the spot it was stuck in (blocking the garage of course). I may have to get a set of chains and I am definatley going to get a ton or so of gravel dropped into the bed for added weight.
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/jeepthrills/IMAG0114.jpg" border="0">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/jeepthrills/IMAG0096.jpg" border="0">

 

[Recovry4x4]

The weight in the bed makes a big difference but doesn't help the steering a bit. I can't wait to get the pipeline truck restored and in the snow. Its heavy and has Detroits in the back. Woohoo!

 

[Elwenil]

Great pics guys. Again, I really need a Deuce! Monster Man, I hope you don't mind, but I swiped your first pic for a desktop background. That's a nice truck!

 

[Desert Rat]

Elwenil,
You're right! As a former military photographer (231X2 USAF) that is a perfect pic of MM's Deuce. Nice job! Next snow here I'll try to get some pics. too. BTW, most anything with dual axles usually will not "dirt track" due to the second axle even if it's live unless the traction is next to pure ice or the equivalent and there is enough power from the engine to completely break free both axles at the same time. Two words: Good Luck.

 

[Monster Man]

thanks guys, I got another great one, stood further away and zoomed in but the flying snow blurred it a little nice though. It's still blizzard out now, maybe I can get some more, I'll post a much bigger version if you want it as a desktop

as far as being stuck, it's very unpredictable. What you think you'll get through, you won't, and what you think you'll get stuck on you blaze through like butter. Big berms of snow are no match for the weight, as long as you have even a little speed. But, it does pack down easily under the weight of the frontend and will bring it to a halt. So don't try to crawl over snow pack, just give it some speed

back to the snow!

 

[Rattlehead]

Jeepthrills,
Get that front axle working! Even if you add chains for traction, you will appreciate the front axle working to help you steer under power. In driving mine in the snow, it was nearly useless without the front axle engaged. Engage the front, took right off. But these things push like crazy even with reasonable traction. Thats where the front axle under power helps you turn.

 

[Monster Man]

Originally posted by Rattlehead

Jeepthrills,
Get that front axle working! Even if you add chains for traction, you will appreciate the front axle working to help you steer under power. In driving mine in the snow, it was nearly useless without the front axle engaged. Engage the front, took right off. But these things push like crazy even with reasonable traction. Thats where the front axle under power helps you turn.

that's the truth!

the other day ago:
<img src="http://www.buschandbusch.com/snow3.jpg" border="0">


I wanted some better pics, so I went out in the blizzard into a wooded area and proceeded to drive into a hidden ditch and gte stuck:
<img src="http://www.buschandbusch.com/snow5.jpg" border="0">

we got out of that 40 minutes later, and within thirty seconds were stuck again when I stopped to let me brother in:
<img src="http://www.buschandbusch.com/whoops.jpg" border="0">

larger version of other pic:
http://www.buschandbusch.com/snow4.jpg

I wanted pics that weren't blurry so proceeded to get stuck again today, near the same spot:
<img src="http://www.buschandbusch.com/snow6.jpg" border="0">
It looks dug out, but these tires suck SO BAD, and I only have 4 wheel drive. Notice a recurring theme here with 4wd?

what my brother thinks fo hours of digging out a deuce:
<img src="http://www.buschandbusch.com/snow7.jpg" border="0">
I nice guy came along, and a quick tug had us out of the ditch. I couldn't get going forward on the solid ice though and ended right back up in almost the same spot!


<img src="http://www.buschandbusch.com/snow8.jpg" border="0">

and finally the call to dad for a tug:
<img src="http://www.buschandbusch.com/snow9.jpg" border="0">

 

[jeepthrills]

I have the driveshaft coming UPS ground. Should be here monday, tuesday the latest. I cant wait to get out there!!

 

[Recovry4x4]

Lance, I know you are somewhat new to the deuce scene so here's a cool trick us oldtimers have had to use a time or two. You can take a good length of cable or really strong rope and weave it between the rear tires and through one of the holes in the wheels (not the hole with the valvestem). Loop it on the hub and you have an impromtu rear winch. Low range reverse and as the tire spins it will wind up the rope between the duals. Works best using both tires but if one tire has decent traction put the cable on the other one. Saved my bacon a time or two.

 

[Elwenil]

Awesome pics! Thanks also for the larger image for my desktop, looks much better non-pixel-ated. Getting suck is a PITA, but I've had some great times with friends trying crazy things to get unstuck. Probably wouldn't have missed it for the world, looking back on it. I can't wait to get a 6x6!

 

[Dieselsmoke]

My friends up in Sun Valley just e-mailed me some pics from their backyard...y'all are buried up there! There's more on the way too!

 

[stefos]

All the family saw the pictures.They are great. Now I am ordered to get the truck ready for snow adventure. We are going for ski this weekend. Any sugestions for the tire presure on icy roads? I like my Deuce as a ten wheeler but now I am afraid that I have to pay the price. I would also like to hear some tips and tricks for the occasion.

 

[Westech]

I have a ? for all you 6x6 people. why do some have head lights lower then the black outs and some on top? any reason on that? mine are above the black outs. <img src="emoticons/icon_smile_shrug.gif" alt="Shrug"> I see that MM'S are lower.

 

[Longhunter7]

Westech!

I believe that is where the older Deuces had their headlights! If you look at older pictures of the first Deuces, you will see them mounted that way!

I don't think it is too hard to change them to the upper location! <img src="emoticons/icon_smile_shrug.gif" alt="Shrug">

Desert Rat had his Deuce come that way, and I think that he moved them up!

Check out his pictures! <img src="emoticons/icon_smile_thumzup.gif" alt="Thumb Up">

 

[stefos]

Early Deuces have their lights on panels that can be inverted and are attached with rubber mountings. This was because trucks wow had the headlights lower than those ww. The late Deuces have fixed panels and the headlights go up were are fine with or without winch. When you invert the old panels you have to rotate the headlights and blackouts 180 too. You also have to use diferend holes for the rubber mountings. It is very easy but it takes time. I did it on my M35 when I added the winch.

 

[Monster Man]

Originally posted by Recovry4x4

Lance, I know you are somewhat new to the deuce scene so here's a cool trick us oldtimers have had to use a time or two. You can take a good length of cable or really strong rope and weave it between the rear tires and through one of the holes in the wheels (not the hole with the valvestem). Loop it on the hub and you have an impromtu rear winch. Low range reverse and as the tire spins it will wind up the rope between the duals. Works best using both tires but if one tire has decent traction put the cable on the other one. Saved my bacon a time or two.

that's a great tip. I had seen something similar in the field recovery manual, but never really gave it a second thought. I could get a good 100 foot of cable with a hook on one end and shackle/tree saver on the other. Would have came in very handy in the wooded area.

Speaking of, you can see the improvised "tire chains" I put on. They were a bit of help, but I damn near destroyed my truck- a word of advice: make sure they are secured good to the wheel/tire or they can come loose, like mine did, and catch on something. It came loose, the hook caught on the fender mount, and if there had been traction on the other side it would have ripped probably the fender off at least. But, it got caught and really hunkered down the suspension and luckily I left off the gas right away. BE CAREFUL, don't be an idiot like me! In the aftermath, it appears I ruined a valvestem on the inner tire. I can't get air out of it and I can't fill it up or check pressure. Lucky that's all it did