Hi guys. Super single problems on m916a3

[talltye101]

Hi guys. New to this place . Our fire department just got a 2008 frieghtliner m916a3. It has new tires all the way around on it. *duals* . We are picked up some new 395/80/r20 xzl mich on 20 inch mrap wheels. I know the mraps won't fit. My question is is there an adapter or other wheels that will make this work ? Our truck is hub centered. Not budd centered. So that's a problem. Thanks in advance.

 

[simp5782]

No there is no adapter for stud pilot to hub pilot. It would make more sense for yall to go to dual 24.5s with a beefier tire that can be found on ebay for not a bad price. 395s are 46.6in. a 12.00R24.5 is the an inch taller and you can still have duals and your heavy truck will be more stable. You get any tire problems offroad with a 395 you are just down, compared to a dual that you can just keep on going. Plus a A3 would be able to turn over 16.00s with out a problem vs 395s. I think there is some brake drum shaving to do as well for 20inch wheels. Just my .02

There are some hub pilot military wheels out there in 20inch. I gotta remember which ones though.

 

[talltye101]

Well the reason we went this route is the truck and the tires/ rims were free.

 

[tobyS]

I have 20" steel Hendersons that are hub centered with the 11.25 bolt circle.

 

[NDT]

Are you sure the A3 does not have Budd wheels? Military is standardized on those.

 

[talltye101]

Yes. Our lug nuts are flat. Not tapered . Is where I am hitting a wall

 

[talltye101]

Where did u find them ? What does the center hole measure ?

 

[tobyS]

Bolts should be larger also, 1" I think. I know the steel thickness at the stud is 1/2" on my wheels, thicker than combat. If you have 11.25" BC, I'll dig one out and get some photo's.

I bought a lot of them from GL, I think about 12. They fit a standard semi axle, so can be used for trailers too.

 

[talltye101]

Yeah. We are 11.25 on the bolts.

 

[country]

We have a rim that will work

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Dave Newman
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[talltye101]

No there is no adapter for stud pilot to hub pilot. It would make more sense for yall to go to dual 24.5s with a beefier tire that can be found on ebay for not a bad price. 395s are 46.6in. a 12.00R24.5 is the an inch taller and you can still have duals and your heavy truck will be more stable. You get any tire problems offroad with a 395 you are just down, compared to a dual that you can just keep on going. Plus a A3 would be able to turn over 16.00s with out a problem vs 395s. I think there is some brake drum shaving to do as well for 20inch wheels. Just my .02

There are some hub pilot military wheels out there in 20inch. I gotta remember which ones though.

It currently has
385/65 r 22.5 and 315/80 22.5 on it

 

[simp5782]

Yea but those are 42s.

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[talltye101]

We have a rim that will work

call or email

Dave Newman
www.easternsurplus.net

Email dave@easternsurplus.net
Office Phone Toll Free 1-855-332-0500


Check out our E- Brochure

US Government Contractor ID # 5KKZ9

Ok. Will get a hold for ya. We tried this morning and got Bill. And he didn't have any idea if you had any that would fit.

 

[tobyS]

Has 8.5" center.

 

[simp5782]

Are you sure the A3 does not have Budd wheels? Military is standardized on those.

Alot of the trailers like mine have gone to hub pilot. Ive noticed alot of the wheels come thru have been that way as well with tires on em.

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[ReoRider]

Back to the question of the OP- running super singles on the Freightliner....The axles will take the plentiful military 20" wheels from the 5 tons or from the HEMTT. The latter will likely require longer studs, but both wheels are stud centered with easy to get hardware. Pictured is set-up with 14:00 X 20 Michelin XZL's on 20" wheels from the 5 tons. Same can be done with 16:00X 20 with a little modification of the front fenders. The clearance for the rears is fine in both cases.

 

[tobyS]

Wow....I like that. Would make a great dump truck.

If those are 14.00's, then 395's will be sweet. I just put the 395 Michelin XZL around my M929A2 and they are changing my opinion about super singles when loaded heavy.

Excellent choice.

 

[ReoRider]

I agree, been running pretty heavy (74,000) with the 14's for a couple of years and the XZL's feel very stable. They were a big help with the final drive ratio as well, though not as important in the OP's case, as he is running the A3 version which has the overdrive top gears in the Allison.

 

[talltye101]

Back to the question of the OP- running super singles on the Freightliner....The axles will take the plentiful military 20" wheels from the 5 tons or from the HEMTT. The latter will likely require longer studs, but both wheels are stud centered with easy to get hardware. Pictured is set-up with 14:00 X 20 Michelin XZL's on 20" wheels from the 5 tons. Same can be done with 16:00X 20 with a little modification of the front fenders. The clearance for the rears is fine in both cases. View attachment 703068View attachment 703067

That is sweet. That's what we are going for. Except we won't be near as heavy. Around 45,000 when it's all said and done

 

[talltye101]

^ could you point me at parts or where to get them ? Dave at northern says he has rims that will work,but I should have added in the o.p we are a small volunteer department. Don't think we can swing $450 a piece for new rims