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Humvee tires and snow?

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Anything more than light accumulation, I wouldn't think twice of having chains. When I say chains I mean hauling ass through the snow and having it fly up over the fenders while maintaining vehicle control. No snow tire regardless of tread, rubber compound, and studs will provide you with that type of security. So at that point, you may as well run an AT tire for year round operation and chain up through the thick stuff. If you are using your rig for mud or rocks than it's a different story. For a general purpose DD, this is what I prefer.
This is not practical where I live. You are often driving through 6-10" of snow, and you aren't going to be running chains on the interstate or the side roads. You'd be crawling a creating a hazard. Also, packed ice and deep slush is a common occurrence. You aren't going to chain up for that either. That being said, I'm a big fan of chains, but only on 4wd roads with deep snow, where they are essential. Saved my butt many times.
 

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The reason I asked how that front posi works in snow is I have a dodge 2wd with rear posi and after stopping in just a dusting the front brakes held but the rear kept turning, and would have taken me right off the road. Granted my idle is set a little high but posi-traction makes control interesting. I have a M1031 that I want to get on the road this winter so this thread is interesting. I have drove a M35 in snow and I can't think of anything good to say about NDT tires in any road condition except I have never been stuck, I have always gotten through. NDT's probably work better if the pressure is lowered for snow.
 

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This is not practical where I live. You are often driving through 6-10" of snow, and you aren't going to be running chains on the interstate or the side roads. You'd be crawling a creating a hazard. Also, packed ice and deep slush is a common occurrence. You aren't going to chain up for that either. That being said, I'm a big fan of chains, but only on 4wd roads with deep snow, where they are essential. Saved my butt many times.
Unfortunately...people nowadays are just plain stupid and drive way too fast in their traction controlled street treaded SUV. Too bad you are unable to chain up because you can pretty much do whatever you want with a good set of chains except run really fast down the road. Sounds like your driving would be best on a set of picked snow tires. Of course that doesn't help you during the summer and requires two sets of tires.

I have to say that out of the many tires that I've run on 4wd trucks, the next step up from the classic AT tread style was a Goodyear MTR. I had a set of 37x12.5's on my Yota crawler and those ran awesome through deep snow. I would haul ass without chaining up and they did great. Of course ice is a whole other ballgame but they did work well in snow. The old Swamper Trxus MT worked pretty good too for a fairly aggressive mud tread.

As far as diffs go in snow/ice, I've had LSD's, Detroits, Spools, and open with all different sets of tires over the years. My preference is always towards the locking diffs because I know when I hit the throttle both tires are going to spin on that axle. Having said that, you can't be dummy behind the wheel. Turns require finesse and slippery conditions in a straight line can all of a sudden turn into some underwear changing sideways action. Gentle with the throttle and paying attention with the steering wheel feedback will get you through the thick stuff with a traction differential. I'll take a spool over an open rear diff any day of the week.
 

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Unfortunately...people nowadays are just plain stupid and drive way too fast in their traction controlled street treaded SUV. Too bad you are unable to chain up because you can pretty much do whatever you want with a good set of chains except run really fast down the road. Sounds like your driving would be best on a set of picked snow tires. Of course that doesn't help you during the summer and requires two sets of tires.

I have to say that out of the many tires that I've run on 4wd trucks, the next step up from the classic AT tread style was a Goodyear MTR. I had a set of 37x12.5's on my Yota crawler and those ran awesome through deep snow. I would haul ass without chaining up and they did great. Of course ice is a whole other ballgame but they did work well in snow. The old Swamper Trxus MT worked pretty good too for a fairly aggressive mud tread.

As far as diffs go in snow/ice, I've had LSD's, Detroits, Spools, and open with all different sets of tires over the years. My preference is always towards the locking diffs because I know when I hit the throttle both tires are going to spin on that axle. Having said that, you can't be dummy behind the wheel. Turns require finesse and slippery conditions in a straight line can all of a sudden turn into some underwear changing sideways action. Gentle with the throttle and paying attention with the steering wheel feedback will get you through the thick stuff with a traction differential. I'll take a spool over an open rear diff any day of the week.
Skinny, were the mtr civilian specs or milspec and is their a difference? Leaning towards the mtr. Price right and wear right. Not gonna drive daily in snow however, i want the truck to b ready when i need it! Surely they r better then the swampers i have now on my 16.5s
 

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I couldn't tell you if the tread pattern is different between the civi or military version. Don't forget that the treadwright tires can use any carcass. The tread is the MTR pattern put onto a donor carcass. I do not know how treadwright doesn't get sued but the Guard Dog is not the 'same exact' tire the military uses. I'm almost 100% positive they only share tread pattern similarity. The military MTR is big $$$ compared to the retread version.
 

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after reaching out to a few suppliers who have these tires, quite a few have pointed toward the Baja ta..they stated grooved the tire was fantastic all around including snow...just wanted to share info
 
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after reaching out to a few suppliers who have these tires, quite a few have pointed toward the Baja ta..they stated grooved the tire was fantastic all around including snow...just wanted to share info
"While Off-Road Maximum Traction tires are branded with the M+S symbol and able to churn through deep snow, their typical oversize applications and the absence of snow-biting sipes in their large smooth lugs can challenge their on-road wintertime traction on packed snow and icy surfaces."

Plus, they are nearly $700 a tire. Not one I would consider at all. Why would you run a race tire made for Baja on snow and ice?
 

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asg13- one thing to look for in a snow tire is the siping. They look like squiggle lines all of the tire. If the tires doesn't have them its not a good snow/ice tire. If you see the picture above of the discoverer you can really see the sipes.
 
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