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I broke the front axle

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Yea, I like Arnold's M47. We have a Munitions Museum here in Hawthorne, and they just acquired a clean M47 early this year. They haven't started it, but it's all there. It was built by American Locomotive Company (ALCO) in Schenectady NY. in 1953. Then it spent most of it's military career with NATO Forces in Italy.
 

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Yeah I am thinking of something to do with the chunk that broke off. Maybe drill and tap it and make a knob out of it.

when you drill/tap that please tell me how you did that
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I did a little car crushing this past weekend. It was at a nationwide 4x4 parts store. It helps to crush the cars in pairs. This was two pairs. Once I was up there, I stayed for a while as it was a great place to watch other activities and there was a nice cross-wind. The two Jeeps then used a flexing ramp pushed up against one of the cars. The second shot shows just how good at "crushing" my M927 is. There must have been 20 crushing runs prior to mine by regular 4x4s but they just managed to push the roofs down to about door sill level. I turned the roofs into floorpans:)
 

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I did a little car crushing this past weekend. It was at a nationwide 4x4 parts store. It helps to crush the cars in pairs. This was two pairs. Once I was up there, I stayed for a while as it was a great place to watch other activities and there was a nice cross-wind. The two Jeeps then used a flexing ramp pushed up against one of the cars. The second shot shows just how good at "crushing" my M927 is. There must have been 20 crushing runs prior to mine by regular 4x4s but they just managed to push the roofs down to about door sill level. I turned the roofs into floorpans
You "done" good, Brother; you done REAL good!! :beer:
 

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I hear you; trashing stuff can be GREAT fun:

- You reminded me of my reserve days when three of us (Seabees) shot-up an old empty fuel tank and reduced it to just the thinnest of scraps.

- We were all squad machine-gunners (M-60), at the range for training that day, and a the end of the training the Master Sergeant was looking for volunteers to use up the ammunition that hadn't been already used (these were the Reagan years when budgets were FAT). Because whatever wasn't used would be discounted off the NEXT year's budget (crazy accounting right, but that's your government for you).

- Everyone else wanted to leave, but me and two buddies said "sure", and I can't tell you how many belts we ran through (but it was a LOT).

- That tank was big, like 40-50 feet long, and 10-15 feet in diameter, solid plate steel; just laying in this field way down range. And by the time we were all done, it was reduced to nothing but scraps of metal laying ALL over that field (this was Quantico). We had a blast!

So, yeah, smashing stuff IS fun! Thanks for giving an old sailor a treat pulling up an old memory. :naner:

When I was in Tank training at Fort Knox we would shot at decommissioned vehicles including other Tanks. It was quite a sight to see a 105mm "HEP" round go downrange and destroy some piece of equipment. Though we did get into trouble once when a deer started walking across the range. All tanks on the firing line started firing at it with their "coax" and 50 cal machine guns. Ten Tanks and not one was able to hit that deer ! I think we got into more trouble for "not" hitting the deer then disobeying a cease fire order from the range officer.
 

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When I was in Tank training at Fort Knox we would shot at decommissioned vehicles including other Tanks. It was quite a sight to see a 105mm "HEP" round go downrange and destroy some piece of equipment. Though we did get into trouble once when a deer started walking across the range. All tanks on the firing line started firing at it with their "coax" and 50 cal machine guns. Ten Tanks and not one was able to hit that deer ! I think we got into more trouble for "not" hitting the deer then disobeying a cease fire order from the range officer.
Oh, MAN, rustystud; that story is GREAT. You made me laugh out loud!! :funny:

You have given me an idea; I might need to start a new Mess Hall thread:

- A Funny Thing Happened to Me on the Range.

Say, we're not drifting here any, are we?
 

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Well Truck is back together and took it for a short spin and everything seems great. The brakes work much better now and the steering as a bit tighter then it was before. I am attributing both to the bad bearings on the drivers side. Everything else looked great after disassemble. The inner bearing put up a bit of a fight... but everything else when smoothly. I plan to take it on a longer drive to see how the bearing heat... but they seem like they should be fine. I have done tons of bearings and I think I have them set properly.

See you all at Haspin!!!
 

74M35A2

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Well Truck is back together and took it for a short spin and everything seems great. The brakes work much better now and the steering as a bit tighter then it was before. I am attributing both to the bad bearings on the drivers side. Everything else looked great after disassemble. The inner bearing put up a bit of a fight... but everything else when smoothly. I plan to take it on a longer drive to see how the bearing heat... but they seem like they should be fine. I have done tons of bearings and I think I have them set properly.

See you all at Haspin!!!
We just had a presentation from Timken on class 8 truck hub bearings, and they specify to set them a pinch loose, so there is 0.003" axial play in the hub when pushed/pulled. They said they know nobody will set this with a dial indicator, but their point was to allow a pinch of slop, and when anything heats it expands, and then that 0.003" becomes 0.000" and the bearing is loading perfectly all the way around. If set at 0.000" cold, it is going to be too tight once it warms up, then bad things happen.

Just seemed like a good time to pass this info along, independent of what the TM says.
 

rustystud

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We just had a presentation from Timken on class 8 truck hub bearings, and they specify to set them a pinch loose, so there is 0.003" axial play in the hub when pushed/pulled. They said they know nobody will set this with a dial indicator, but their point was to allow a pinch of slop, and when anything heats it expands, and then that 0.003" becomes 0.000" and the bearing is loading perfectly all the way around. If set at 0.000" cold, it is going to be too tight once it warms up, then bad things happen.

Just seemed like a good time to pass this info along, independent of what the TM says.
I posted this a few years ago, but it is always good to remind people. Are you going to class on mechanics ? I remember some presentations from Timken back in the day. Do they still have a "raffle" ? I won a clock from them once. It doesn't work anymore, but I still have it in my home shop.
 

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No mechanics class, I hope to one day learn about that kind of stuff. Our company hosted a monthly National Trucking Association meeting and Timken reps were there and did the *.ppt presentation. I really just joined/stayed for the BBQ ribs that were catered in, as they were hanging-off-the-plate-type. I think that is the real reason Timken joined also. Not sure how many people went home and reset the clearance on their hubs, but the ribs vanished, the garbage cans were full of used empty paper plates, and everybody said "That was great" on their way out the door. No free clocks, maybe the backlash on your clock bearings was set to tight?
 

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I posted this a few years ago, but it is always good to remind people. Are you going to class on mechanics ? I remember some presentations from Timken back in the day. Do they still have a "raffle" ? I won a clock from them once. It doesn't work anymore, but I still have it in my home shop.
One guarantee I can make you about that clock, rustystud, old buddy:

- It will ALWAYS be correct on exactly two occasions every single day you own it! :mrgreen:
 

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I used to be a machinist and did some millwright work in the shop as well. If I had to guess from experience I should have between .001 and .003 slop in the setting so I should be ok.
 

rustystud

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No mechanics class, I hope to one day learn about that kind of stuff. Our company hosted a monthly National Trucking Association meeting and Timken reps were there and did the *.ppt presentation. I really just joined/stayed for the BBQ ribs that were catered in, as they were hanging-off-the-plate-type. I think that is the real reason Timken joined also. Not sure how many people went home and reset the clearance on their hubs, but the ribs vanished, the garbage cans were full of used empty paper plates, and everybody said "That was great" on their way out the door. No free clocks, maybe the backlash on your clock bearings was set to tight?
Considering the clock only lived for 3 years I would rather have had the good BBQ ribs meal ! Ummm ribs !!! :D
 

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I took mechanic classes in HS. It was really good stuff. We would occasionally have local companies or manufacturers come in and talk tot he class. One of them I found most informative was a fastener manufacturer. They gave us about 3 hours of solid info that I use today.

So does anyone know what clearance is left over once you follow the procedure in the TM? I think the concept is the 50 ft-lb is enough to seat & center everything with minor or irrelevant distortion while backing off a fractional turn of the nut (with thread pitch in consideration) provides that small bit of clearance.

Do you have a contact person at Timken that might be able to answer this?
 

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I took mechanic classes in HS. It was really good stuff. We would occasionally have local companies or manufacturers come in and talk tot he class. One of them I found most informative was a fastener manufacturer. They gave us about 3 hours of solid info that I use today.

So does anyone know what clearance is left over once you follow the procedure in the TM? I think the concept is the 50 ft-lb is enough to seat & center everything with minor or irrelevant distortion while backing off a fractional turn of the nut (with thread pitch in consideration) provides that small bit of clearance.

Do you have a contact person at Timken that might be able to answer this?
We tighten our buses to 250Ibs then back off 20 degrees.
 
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