Ignition Lock Cylinder/Hot wire/Push-button start?

[TechnoWeenie]

First off--you're my keyless ignition hero. Next, where did you get the goods to do it? I was going to use a momentary rocker with a flip-up cover with a label that says "ARM" and a push-button for the starter that says "FIRE"--kind of going on a weapon theme...BUT, I love staying with the military theme. I had even thought about putting one of the M-Series push button switches in for the lights too. I drove a 5 ton and HEMTT for many years and always like those switches...

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Switches came from a member here..

Relays came from Amazon.

Luckily, the system is super simple...

You need to worry about 3 things...

Starter, Hot on Run, and Hot on Accy.

Constant 12V+	Red	Ignition Switch Harness
Starter	Purple	Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition	Pink	Ignition Switch Harness
Accessory	Orange	Ignition Switch Harness

 

[TechnoWeenie]

I isolated Ign 1 and Ign 3 because it created a loop where the alternator was keeping the fuel solenoid actuated, not allowing it to turn off, hah. Make sure you do the same.

For what you want, sounds something like this...

https://www.amazon.com/KDL-Ignition-Switch-Carbon-Toggle/dp/B012NDSVS4/

 

[TechnoWeenie]

I removed the entire switch... ...

Then used a voltmeter to check outputs at each position.

I did have to remove the steering wheel to remove the locking pawl.....

 

[Tinstar]

Wouldn’t it be so much easier to just put it back like it left the factory?
There’s your military theme. Like it was.

Your truck of course, but the more you hack into wiring, the more problems you will have later.
Plus no one will be able to help since it’s a Frankenstein of sorts.

 

[Tinstar]

Oh forgot.
The push button light switch is known for catching on fire.
Search threads about it.
A Known issue

 

[TechnoWeenie]

Oh forgot.
The push button light switch is known for catching on fire.
Search threads about it.
A Known issue

Had a guy I know whose light switch went out on him....

Seems everyone has problem with those electronic switches...

I'm thinking they were only designed to run with LEDs and people are running them with incandescent bulbs.

 

[TechnoWeenie]

Wouldn’t it be so much easier to just put it back like it left the factory?
There’s your military theme. Like it was.

Personal preference, really.

Your truck of course,

Plus no one will be able to help since it’s a Frankenstein of sorts.

If you can wire something simple like I did, it shouldn't be a problem.

but the more you hack into wiring, the more problems you will have later.

This I will disagree with 147%... Modifying isn't 'hacking into'.... Yes, there are idiots, but then there are people who design their modifications, and do so with reliability in mind.

My modifications are more reliable. Less moving parts, easier to bypass or replace parts should something fail, etc. I guarantee you that my wiring is better than the factory wiring, at this point. Water sealed heat shrink connectors, gas/oil resistant wire, split loom, etc.

 

[PeeWeeQ]

"Wouldn’t it be so much easier to just put it back like it left the factory? There’s your military theme. Like it was."

Yes, for sure, but, I like to make things my own. That's just me. I understand and respect the purists and I like to keep everything "sort of" original, but, not quite. On the "Frankenstein" note, I document everything in detail in a binder that I keep with maintenance records, receipts, and every dumb little thing I do to it.

Anyone owning the vehicle after m (IF I were to ever get rid of it) won't have a problem figuring out what I've done, how I did it, and how it works...

 

[Tinstar]

Good luck

 

[n8roro]

Post what you end up doing if you go for it PeeWeeQ. Thanks for showing your work Techno Weenie.

 

[PeeWeeQ]

"Post what you end up doing if you go for it PeeWeeQ. Thanks for showing your work Techno Weenie."

I really, REALLY want to right now, but, I've been spending too much time on the beast lately, according to "the boss", if you catch my drift. I'll let it cool for a week or two and go back at it. Now that I have a good blue print for it, it's a definite possibility, and, like I said, I'd really like to do it.

I also have a few winter projects coming up, like, renewing an new dash with fiberglass using and old dash as a frame/template and building a new center console/storage piece. I'm also hoping to add some gauges and a tach. We'll see...But, rest assured, I will take pics and chronicle what I do here....

 

[Avngr86]

What do you need to know exactly?

Sorry for the ressurection here.
Thanks for the info you put up, your youtube vid is set to private so i couldn't see it.
If i read your schematic right, would pulling a 12v (red) and pink from the ignition switch to a rocker switch work to replace the key - on position?
I would have have a momentary for the purp/wht to in cab starter relay, and momentary for the GP blue for the control card.

 

[TechnoWeenie]

Sorry for the ressurection here.
Thanks for the info you put up, your youtube vid is set to private so i couldn't see it.
If i read your schematic right, would pulling a 12v (red) and pink from the ignition switch to a rocker switch work to replace the key - on position?
I would have have a momentary for the purp/wht to in cab starter relay, and momentary for the GP blue for the control card.

I don't remember the exact situation, but I basically duplicated the ignition switch, with 3 high current relays. 2 for ignition and 1 for accessory... with the already replaced relay for starter....and just had them actuated by 2 switches.. Top for run/start, bottom for accy.


I edited the security so it should show now, not private...

 

[Avngr86]

I don't remember the exact situation, but I basically duplicated the ignition switch, with 3 high current relays. 2 for ignition and 1 for accessory... with the already replaced relay for starter....and just had them actuated by 2 switches.. Top for run/start, bottom for accy.


I edited the security so it should show now, not private...

Thank you much!

 

[Avngr86]

I don't remember the exact situation, but I basically duplicated the ignition switch, with 3 high current relays. 2 for ignition and 1 for accessory... with the already replaced relay for starter....and just had them actuated by 2 switches.. Top for run/start, bottom for accy.


I edited the security so it should show now, not private...

Thats genius with the GP momentary led from the solenoid