In search of obscure Bosch Fuel Filter

[rhinob]

Greetings,

I have a 5-ton Steel Soldier from Switzerland built by FBW in 1938. First of four built for the Wehrmacht and never delivered. It has 16,000 original Kilometers and starts, runs, drives, and stops. In the process of servicing this truck, I've found the finding the fuel filter is proving difficult.

The Bosch number is 1.457.431.270.

I've found a company that requires I buy 12 and to wait 2 weeks, but other than that, I've found nothing but references to it in cross reference indexes. Those filters are also obscure and I can't find any of them.

And since everyone likes a photo or two, see attached.

Can anyone help? Thanks much,

Den

 

[GoHot229]

WOW....hooey, what a find. And it looks virtually new. Do you have a picture of the filter itself, mabe one of us may recognise something that might replace it like some odd filter for a Corvair, or an irrigation pump or some obscure thing that will interchange That company 'Grainger' may have something that will fit, they are heaven for unusual and common things/stuff.

 

[roger-wilco-66]

Wow, cool find, very beautiful truck. I always wonder why they built these with right hand drive (the later built swiss Saurer trucks, too).

Try to google the number without dots, i.e. 1457431270 and filter.

you get urls like
Main Filter Group - Largest online filter store
or
Luftfilter und Ölfilter für lkw > EVOBUS / KAESSBOHRER/SETRA > SG 200-Serie > SG219SL1985-MAN D 2866 TUH

and many others.

Hope that helps,
Mark

 

[Bill W]

NAPA/WIX crosses to this element, check it against your element

Part Detail

 

[Chief_919]

I found an NS, so some sort of US equipment used it at one time. However, all suppliers listed are in Europe so far. Perhaps one of the below numbers you can cross into a US number, I will keep looking.

NSN 2910-12-123-0997

Part #s and manufacturers:


DIN73358-E1(PAPIER) DIN DEUTSCHES INTITUT FUER NORMUNG- GERMANY
EK404 MAHLE AFTERMARKET- GERMANY
E10K HENGST WALKER ING- GERMANY
E10KP HENGST WALKER ING- GERMANY
KX36 MAHLE FILTERSYSTEM GMBH- GERMANY
KX36 MAHLE AFTERMARKET- GERMANY
KX36 OLAER INDUSTRIES SA- FRANCE
PM454 MAHLE FILTERSYSTEM GMBH- GERMANY
P811 MANN HUMMEL- GERMANY
0004774015 DAIMELR AG- GERMANY
0004774515 DAIMELR AG- GERMANY
0014529 TADANO FAUN GMBH- GERMANY
0024151119 RENAULT TRUCKS- FRANCE
0024866092 RENAULT VEHCULES INDUSTRIALS- FRANCE
0024866092 RENAULT TRUCKS- FRANCE
01151305 DEUTZ AG- GERMANY
0116 8398 DEUTZ AG- GERMANY
0116 8399 DEUTZ AG- GERMANY
0116 8400 DEUTZ AG- GERMANY
0117 5893 GENOVESE UMBERTO SR- ITALY
0117 5893 DEUTZ AG- GERMANY
0301120 DAF TRUCKS NV-NETHERLANDS
0794693 TADANO FAUN GMBH- GERMANY
0795194 TADANO FAUN GMBH- GERMANY
1 457 431 270 BOCSH ROBERT NV- BELGIUM
1201 9769 DEUTZ AG- GERMANY
1457431270 ROBERT BOSCH GMBH- GERMANY
1457431326 ROBERT BOSCH GMBH- GERMANY
241-GENOVESE UMBERTO SR- ITALY01175893 GENOVESE UMBERTO SR- ITALY
301120 DAF TRUCKS NV-NETHERLANDS
302196 NAVANTIA S.A.- Spain
302196 NAVANTIA S.A.- Spain
3554700192 DAIMELR AG- GERMANY
40700148 TEREX-KAELBL3 GMBH CO KG- GERMANY
40700148-00 TEREX-KAELBL3 GMBH CO KG- GERMANY
408604611 STILL GMBH ABT WEHRTECHNIK- GERMANY
453 SOGEFI FILTRATION LTD- UNITED KINGDOM
513173000 HENSCHEL WEHRTECHNIK GMBH- GERMANY
6-0541-14-0003 MWM DIESEL UND GASTECHNIK- GERMANY
66 505 56 012 MANN HUMMEL- GERMANY
66 505 57 012 MANN HUMMEL- GERMANY
81.12503.0018 MAN NUTZFAHRZEUGE AG- GERMANY
81.12503-0022 MAN NUTZFAHRZEUGE AG- GERMANY
81.12503-0063 MAN NUTZFAHRZEUGE AG- GERMANY
81-12503-0042 MAN NUTZFAHRZEUGE AG- GERMANY
81125030018 MAN NUTZFAHRZEUGE AG- GERMANY
81125030048 MAN NUTZFAHRZEUGE AG- GERMANY
81125030054 MAN NUTZFAHRZEUGE AG- GERMANY
81125030063 MAN NUTZFAHRZEUGE AG- GERMANY
8406721 TADANO FAUN GMBH- GERMANY





Characteristics Data Response for NSN 2910-12-123-0997
Item Name: FILTER ELEMENT,FLUID
MRC Requirement Statement Clear Text Reply
NAME ITEM NAME FILTER ELEMENT,FLUID
STYL STYLE DESIGNATOR A10 CYLINDRICAL W/CONTAINER
ABPM BODY DIAMETER 3.23 INCHS MINIMUM
AND 3.27 INCHS
MAXIMUM
ADAS BODY INSIDE DIAMETER 0.55 INCHS NOMINAL
AZTL BODY OVERALL LENGTH 5.61 INCHS MINIMUM
AND 5.75 INCHS
MAXIMUM
MATT MATERIAL PAPER FILTERING MEDIUM
MATT MATERIAL STEEL CORROSION RESISTING
FRAME
MATT MATERIAL RUBBER SYNTHETIC SEAL
CRXW FILTERING MEDIA DESIGN PLEATED SINGLE FILTERING
MEDIA RESPONSE
APGF DESIGN TYPE NONREUSABLE
ADNH FILTRATION RATING IN NOT RATED
MICRONS
ADNK FLOW DIRECTION OUTSIDE IN
ADNL FILTERING SURFACE AREA 527.00 SQUARE INCHES
FEAT SPECIAL FEATURES NOMINAL FLOW RATE OF 253.61
PINTS PER HOUR

 

[Chief_919]

Did some more looking, and the Baldwin PF950 should work.

As well, the Deutz 1289054; International 3059245-R91; Mercedes-Benz 4777901; Volvo 233239

 

[roger-wilco-66]

OT: interesting hangar you have there, is that a Fieseler Storch and a SdKfz 251 on the pictures?


Mark

 

[Chief_919]

OK add:

Luber-Finer L61F
Wix 33112
Fram C11861PL
AC Delco T570, TP1273
Big A 92112, 95112
Carquest PSJ154Z
Fleetguard FF147, FF147J, FF225, FF4033
Motorcraft FD59, FD61
Napa 3112


I found a lot more, but these were the most common ones. If you need more numbers just let me know.

 

[Bill W]

Yep
NAPA/WIX 3112 as I posted earlier, the fleet filter site I posted will have the demensions of the element also so you can check yours against it to make sure its correct

 

[rhinob]

Outstanding. Thank you for all of the great info. I know what to do now come business hours tomorrow!

To answer Roger-Wilco-66, you're very close. The plane is actually an L-60SF Brigadyr post war version of the Fieseler Storch. It's painted in the Afrika theater paint scribble pattern and I've owned it about 4 years. The 251 is actually a Czech OT-810 that my friend Geoff owns. He's spared no expense to convert it to a D-model 251. Further in the back is a Unimog 404 funker of mine and Geoff has also a Borgward B2000 and a Kubelwagen. If you Google "German Halftrack" his 251/OT-810 site will come up at the top. You can see what we do with these things.

It beats collecting stamps, but then you all know about that sort of brain damage we share.

Attached are some photos of the Brigadyr.

Thanks again everyone!

Den

 

[Chief_919]

I do belive I spot a pic from Reading there.

 

[Bill W]

OT: interesting hangar you have there, is that a Fieseler Storch and a SdKfz 251 on the pictures?


Mark

Damn Mark
You've got good vision, I had to go back to the pic's to see what the heck you guys were talking about, all I could see was that cool truck and picture in my head of Indiana Jones hanging off the front bumper!!

 

[roger-wilco-66]

> It beats collecting stamps

sure does!

Nice plane! Thanks for the pics!

Cheers,
Mark

 

[rhinob]

DING DING DING!! We have a winner!

Chief_919 is correct in noting a shot from Reading, PA. WW2 Weekend event in June of every year I try to participate with the plane. In fact, the last 3 photos are from that event where I do an aerial display flying over the American side of the ground battle. The little Ami plane fly's over the German side. And the Mustang above us makes strafing runs on my slowness. It's quite the ballet and a heckuva a lot of fun.

I'm guessing that the Chief has been to the Reading event?

Den

 

[Chief_919]

DING DING DING!! We have a winner!

Chief_919 is correct in noting a shot from Reading, PA. WW2 Weekend event in June of every year I try to participate with the plane. In fact, the last 3 photos are from that event where I do an aerial display flying over the American side of the ground battle. The little Ami plane fly's over the German side. And the Mustang above us makes strafing runs on my slowness. It's quite the ballet and a heckuva a lot of fun.

I'm guessing that the Chief has been to the Reading event?

Den

We have made every show there since 1995. The only one I missed was when I was in Afghanistan in 05, but we still had our vendor spot up and going for the company.

Best WWII show in the world in my opinion.

 

[rhinob]

I couldn't agree more. Best show I've ever seen.

I've brought 3 different German trucks, a Marder I self-propelled gun (replica) multiple war-time production Zundapp's and BMW's, and the plane. I've been in the German unit "GD" since 1995.

Den

 

[rhinob]

Thanks again for everyone's help. I bought a couple different versions of the filter. The FBW is running great with the new filter installed!

Den