I was not sure who the younger guy was. You are correct, the son was very knowledgeable and fair minded; however the dad followed us in a kawasaki mule around the yard and kept raising the prices at every chance he could. I believe the son knew the prices were way too high but there was nothing he could do about them. We arrived in the back lot and the son quoted 200$ for the tail gate, the father showed up a minute later and said it was in too good of shape and they needed $250 for it. Then he said the chains are not included. The son told him "dad they are welded to the tail gate", and the father relented that they could be sold with it finally. (however, still too expensive)