Looking for a part

[WillWagner]

I got the front pulled apart in the M62 today, pictures to come in the thread on it, but I figured, since I am 3 belts and and adapter away, might as well do a front seal, IF it still available.

I did some digging, needed TM 9-2805-203-35P. That supercedes to TM 9-2805-203-34P. Found that in PDF. The part image and numbers are there, pg 39, figure 6, item 20, seal, oil: cover 545203 (19207). I have tried my google-fu and come up with nothing on either number. Tried looking for "R6602 parts" and mess of other ways. Nothing. Does anyone have any idea where I can source a front seal? Eastern Surplus has engine gasket kits on their site, but says to call for price, which usually means not in stock.

Any help will be of great assistance!

 

[Guyfang]

This is the info I found for Figure 6, Item 20 in the TM 9-2805-203-34P

FSC: 5330 NIIN: 001548358 CANCELLED NIIN: 000545293 002761922 003631358 005596563 006726783 008673540 008937282 010086803 ITEM NAME: SEAL,PLAIN ENCASED

Part numbers Cage codes

00044	14153	A	3	1	A	ZZ			Y
10A7038	81240	F	5	9	X	XX
175G	75Q65	A	5	2	5	ZZ
175G	45152	R	5	9	X	XX
194206	77237	A	5	2	5	ZZ
194206	12603	R	5	9	5	HD
194206	40152	R	5	9	5	HD
21158-2120	73680	A	5	2	X	XX
22-75630	D9182	A	C	1	6	ZZ		AC
23514608	D9182	A	C	1	6	ZZ		AC
28671	80201	A	5	2	X	XX
375228A	80201	A	5	2	X	XX
375288	80201	A	5	2	X	XX
49291	79150	A	5	2	X	XX
49291	80201	A	5	2	X	XX
5115454	K4285	A	5	1	2	ZK
5115454	D9182	A	C	1	6	ZZ		AC
5115454	72582	A	5	2	5	CT			Y
5115454	73342	A	5	2	5	9Z
5115454	99832	F	5	9	5	TG
5115454	24617	A	5	9	5	TG
5151392	24617	A	5	9	X	XX			Y
5151392	72582	A	5	2	X	XX
5330001548358	SCY13	R	5	9	9	YP
55006	80201	A	5	2	5	HD
55006	01212	A	5	2	5	KZ
55006	76680	H	5	9	X	XX
63X2120	73680	A	5	2	X	XX
63X2120	F0663	R	5	9	4	ZF
8253	09605	H	5	9	X	XX
97X100	32537	A	5	9	5	CT
E14-23-140B	81782	A	5	2	5	KZ
E14-23-140PCE14-23-140B	81782	A	5	2	5	KZ
E22419PC15	29899	A	5	9	5	KZ
F2716PC20	0AT62	A	5	2	5	KZ
F2716PC20	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
F2716PC20	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
F4378PC46	0AT62	A	5	2	5	KZ
F4378PC46	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
F4378PC46	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
F4457PCX1220T53	0AT62	A	5	2	5	KZ
F4457PCX1220T53	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
F4457PCX1220T53	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
F4517PC28B	0AT62	A	5	2	5	KZ
F4517PC28B	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
F4517PC28B	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
F4525PC28B	0AT62	A	5	2	5	KZ
F4525PC28B	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
F4525PC28B	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
F4819PC54	0AT62	A	5	2	5	KZ
F4819PC54	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
F4819PC54	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
F4821PC31	0AT62	A	5	2	5	KZ
F4821PC31	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
F4821PC31	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
IR30-3000-31	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
IR30-3000-311	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
IR30-3000-33	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
IR30-3000-33	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
K 5115454	18954	F	5	9	5	KZ
N165PC8	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
N165PC8	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
N168PC8	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
N168PC8	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
N181PC8	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
N181PC8	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
N183PC8	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
N183PC8	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
N186PC8	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
N186PC8	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
N199PC8	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
N199PC8	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
N201PC8	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
N201PC8	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
N204PC8	0AT62	A	5	2	5	ZZ
N204PC8	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
N204PC8	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
N217PC8	0AT62	A	5	2	5	ZZ
N217PC8	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
N217PC8	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
N234PC8	0AT62	A	5	2	5	ZZ
N234PC8	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
N234PC8	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
N237PC8	0AT62	A	5	2	5	ZZ
N237PC8	30760	A	5	9	5	KZ
N237PC8	88663	R	5	9	5	KZ
N24130PC5	55380	A	5	2	5	KZ
N24130PC5	72915	H	5	9	5	KZ
NT10764PC5	55380	A	5	2	5	KZ
NT10764PC5	24617	A	5	9	X	XX
NT10764PC5	72915	H	5	9	5	KZ
NT4017PC5	24617	A	5	9	X	XX
NT4017PC5	72915	H	5	9	X	XX
NT7770PC5	24617	A	5	9	X	XX
NT7770PC5	72915	H	5	9	X	XX
NT7771PC3	24617	A	5	9	X	XX
NT7771PC3	72915	H	5	9	X	XX
PC5151392	C7432	H	5	9	3	ZG
R600L204	63827	A	5	2	5	KZ

	TEMP RATING	-40.0 DEG FAHRENHEIT AND 200.0 DEG FAHRENHEIT
	ACCOMMODATED SHAFT DIAMETER	7.30 CENTIMETERS NOMINAL
	SEAL WIDTH	1.27 CENTIMETERS NOMINAL
	ACCOMMODATED SHAFT MAXIMUM RATED SPEED	609.6000 METERS PER MINUTE
	CASE STYLE	SQUARE
	HOUSING BORE DIAMETER	9.53 CENTIMETERS NOMINAL
	HARDNESS RATING	80.0 SHORE DUROMETER A NOMINAL OVERALL
	SEALING ELEMENT STYLE	ANGULAR
	MAXIMUM PRESSURE RATING	3175.20 GRAMS PER SQUARE INCH
	COLOR	BLACK
	MATERIAL	LEATHER SEALING ELEMENT OR RUBBER SYNTHETIC SEALING ELEMENT

 

[Guyfang]

80201 is SKF Cage code

 

[WillWagner]

The Cage Code tells me it is SKF, that's all I can finger out. I did however do a bit more research. FSN transfers to NSN, which in turn supercedes to 5330-00-912-5141, NIIN 009125141.

Still a dead end.

@Guyfang, I looked for all of the numbers associated with 80201. The description looks like what I need, but 3 of the numbers come up wit no match, the 49292 is a sealed roller bearing.

I did not try the parts x ref sheet Simp made a while ago. Lemme try there.

 

[WillWagner]

For some reason, the 5T parts sheet is inaccessible to me. Needed to send a request

 

[NDT]

Suggest you take the seal to Motion Industries or your favorite bearing house. They can “back into” a part number based on dimensions.

 

[WillWagner]

Suggest you take the seal to Motion Industries or your favorite bearing house. They can “back into” a part number based on dimensions.

I do not want to remove it until I know that there is a replacement.

 

[Guyfang]

This is a list of Cage Codes and the Names of the Suppliers. It doesn't have to be SKF. Try another. Call/email and give them the tech data. Ask them to find something to fit. This part is listed as being used in almost 20 different pieces of equipment.

01212

FEDERAL-MOGUL CORP

GOVERNMENT SALES DEPT

26555 NORTHWESTERN HWY

1966

DETROIT

MI

48235

0AT62

DRESSER-RAND COMPANY

DBA RECIPROCATING PRODUCTS DIV

100 CHEMUNG ST

PAINTED POST

NY

14870-1352

14153

DEFENSE LOGISTICS AGENCY

DBA DEFENSE SUPPLY CENTER

700 ROBBINS AVENUE DSCP BLDG 36 2

PHILADELPHIA

PA

19111-5008

24617

GENERAL MOTORS CORP

3044 W GRAND BLVD

DETROIT

MI

48202-3091

55380

HATCH & KIRK, INC.

5111 LEARY AVE NW

SEATTLE

WA

98107-4888

63827

DEDECO INTERNATIONAL SALES, INC.

11617 STATE RTE 97

LONG EDDY

NY

12760-0000

72582

MTU AMERICA INC.

39525 MACKENZIE DR

NOVI

MI

48377-1602

73342

ALLISON TRANSMISSION, INC.

ONE ALLISON WAY

INDIANAPOLIS

IN

46222-3271

73680

GARLOCK SEALING TECHNOLOGIES LLC

DBA GARLOCK SEALING TECHNOLOGIES

1666 DIVISION ST

PALMYRA

NY

14522-9383

79150

DANA AUTOMOTIVE SYSTEMS GROUP, LLC

DBA DANA SEALING PRODUCTS

1945 OHIO ST

LISLE

IL

60532-2169

80201

SKF USA INC.

DBA SKF AEROSPACE SEALING SOLUTIONS

900 N STATE ST

ELGIN

IL

60123-2104

81782

ALMON JOHNSON LTD

5301 SHREVEPORT BLANCHARD

SHREVEPORT

LA

71107-8689

D9182

ZF INDUSTRIEANTRIEBE WITTEN GMBH

MANNESMANNSTR. 29

1860

WITTEN

58455

K4285

TEREX EQUIPMENT LTD

NEWHOUSE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE

MOTHERWELL

LANARKSHIRE

ML1 5RY

 

[Guyfang]

The FSN you listed: 5330-00-912-5141 Is not on this list Below.

This is the info from the TM: PAFZZ 5330-054-5293 SEAL,OIL:COVER Part# 545203 Cage (19207) Figure# 6 Item# 20
This is what I found in the Part Number cross reference in the back of the book: Part#: 545293 MFG Code: 19207 Figure# 6 Item# 20

NOT THE SAME!!

So I looked in the Stock Number Cross Ref in the TM: NSN: 5330-054-5293 Figure# 6 Item# 20
This is the correct FSN/NSN, Listed below. Its been superseded by 5330-00-154-8358.


FSC: 5330
NIIN: 001548358
CANCELLED NIIN: 000545293 002761922 003631358 005596563 006726783 008673540 008937282 010086803
ITEM NAME: SEAL,PLAIN ENCASED

 

[WillWagner]

Well, I can still keep working on the seal number. I made a decision to just put it back together. The reason for this is that when I came back in yesterday, oil was wicking out and running down the snout of the crank. The oil was coming from between the adapter and crank. So, it is my opinion that the seal isn't leaking, it is only wet on the front of the damper.

The bolts that mount the damper to the adapter were not tight. They torque to 30-40 ft lbs. I am thinking that the oil wicked out from between the components and got into the two crimped together parts of the damper and was just getting slung out when the engine ran.

I cleaned the damper well, got it warm to see if more oil came out and it seemed OK. After I put it back together, I painted the front of the damper. Normally, well, not normal, but after runnung, oil would be all over the outside of the rotating mass and slinging all over. After re assembly, I ran the engine to operating temp and around 20 mins longer, that would equal about 2.5 gallons of gas! No oil slinging, the outside of the damper was dry. I also used Ultra Gray sealant in the keyway and around the snout/adapter joint.

Here is what the front looked like before the repair.

I think this part is done, however, if someone has a p/n for the seal, that would be great. I can order it and, incase it still leaks after actual use, it is no big deal to pull it down again and change the seal out.