Louisiana - State Asking for NHTSA sticker for deuce titled and registered in 2009

[Flyingvan911]

Let's see if I can post the PDF's.

Thanks for posting these in an easy to save format. I suggest everyone download these and save them with the TM's for your vehicle(s).

 

[Flyingvan911]

Since the DOD still considers our vehicles as a potential military asset if they need them, what about a federal law that would allow them to be registered and insured? I know World War 3 (.1427) isn't likely but a fleet of well maintained and operating vehicles could be handy to have around.

 

[profo]

Got any contact info?

the number on your paper!

 

[frodobaggins]

OK update. Just got off the phone with "Dianne". I am waiting on a callback from Tabitha.
Dianne asked me what the issue was and I told her. She told me that without the sticker
I would have to register it as off road. I told her she didn't understand, that ALL Military
vehicles do not come with a sticker. That this would affect all of the vehicles in the state.
She told me she DID understand, and that no sticker, no reg. She is supposed to have Tabitha
call me back.

Not looking good so far.
WTH

 

[juanprado]

What plate do you have or are you a military vin stencil which has a different statue?

 

[JayLeto]

I received a letter as well. I have left a message for Tabitha just now, and hoping for good news. Please let me know what happens on your end.

Thanks

 

[frodobaggins]

What plate do you have or are you a military vin stencil which has a different statue?

Stencil

 

[frodobaggins]

I have written 3 letters, one to the DMV, and to my representative and senator. I am holding off on sending those as I will need to revise after some good info in this and other threads as well as waiting on a callback from Tabitha.

Frodo

(Fair Warning: If this turns out to be a big deal, I don't currently have the time or resources to fight this. But I will lend my voice and whatever resources I can spare.)

 

[timntrucks]

wow looks like us in louisiana are in for a rough ride about this

 

[Crazyguyla]

I know most of the streets in New Orleans and most state hwys qualify as "off road" because they worse than a washed out, washboard filled dirt road. I'm sorta glad I'm getting my Duece outta LA. Anything over 25 years old can be registered as an antique vehicle and be safe?

 

[bachman502]

All of the sudden the Virginia legislation isn’t looking to bad compared to this.

 

[Broke Down]

Keep us updated guys, I'm in Pineville and I am hoping this blows over. This is really upsetting.

 

[patracy]

Keep us updated guys, I'm in Pineville and I am hoping this blows over. This is really upsetting.

Whodat?

 

[Broke Down]

Whodat?

I might "sell" you mine and I can "borrow" it from you, you know......GA has those EZ titles...lol. Answer your phone some time would ya?

 

[profo]

OK update. Just got off the phone with "Dianne". I am waiting on a callback from Tabitha.
Dianne asked me what the issue was and I told her. She told me that without the sticker
I would have to register it as off road. I told her she didn't understand, that ALL Military
vehicles do not come with a sticker. That this would affect all of the vehicles in the state.
She told me she DID understand, and that no sticker, no reg. She is supposed to have Tabitha
call me back.

Not looking good so far.
WTH

Your vehicle does not have a NHTSA label because the NHTSA did not exist before 1970. That should help
Also ,
Here's the email may help!

Tabitha.Ducote@la.gov

 

[undysworld]

FWIW: It's not a NHTSA label, it's a FMVSS Certification Label. FMVSS existed prior to the creation of NHTSA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Highway_Traffic_Safety_Administration
NHTSA is an agency. FMVSS are the equipment requirements.

 

[frodobaggins]

I sent Tabitha a nice email. Hopefully she will get back with me soon.

 

[frodobaggins]

Your vehicle does not have a NHTSA label because the NHTSA did not exist before 1970. That should help
Also ,
Here's the email may help!

######

Tabitha has asked that her email not be shared publicly. But thank you so much.

 

[frodobaggins]

Email Exchange

Email Exchange:

Hello Tabitha,

My name is Kevin #########. I received the attached letter from the OMV requesting proof of an NHTSA sticker for my 1971 AMG M35A2.
NO military vehicles AT ALL come with and NHTSA (FMVSS) sticker, so obviously I cannot comply with this request.
Requiring that military vehicles registered in the state comply with this would take every one of them off the road.

In addition, MIL-STD-1180B standards are equivalent to FMVSS for my class of vehicles.

Since the legislature of Louisiana adopted specific laws to honor and register these vehicles, it is obviously not the state's intent
to take them off of the road.

So basically what I am asking, is what I can do to resolve this, and are you able to assist me?

Thank you very much for your time,
Kevin

My manager Evelyn ###### will be calling you at some point today.

Our administration has sent letters to all Louisiana residents that have these type vehicles registered.
The last few years we have been getting SF97, affidavits, and bill of sales stamped “OFF ROAD USE ONLY”.
I don’t know if you are aware but other states are registering these off road or off highway as well.
Louisiana is trying to determine them to be road worthy or not and NHTSA stickers state they meet all safety requirements.
I’m aware that they do not have NHTSA stickers but we have to follow what our administration is asking. I’m assuming they
will be making a decision soon as to why they are requesting the stickers.

I just wanted to let you know you wasn’t singled out. Everybody that has these type vehicles in Louisiana got these letters.

Thank you, I am aware of people trying to register vehicles with the "OFF ROAD USE ONLY" stamped on their SF-97s.
We by and large in my community try to discourage people from trying to go around the system. I don't disagree with their
wanting to use their vehicles, but believe they should try to solve their problem legislatively instead of trying to game the system.
My vehicle and my class of vehicles, do not have their SF-97s stamped off road only, and were sold intended to be used on road.
The only category I know of that do currently is HMMWV (Humvees), the US government recently decided to sell these, and decided
they were to be sold as off-road vehicles.

But anyway, thank you for your time, and if you wouldn't mind forwarding this email as well.
Thank you
Kevin

The issues we are having are people using other states for titling that don’t require the SF-97 so they are not aware of the
“Off Road-Use only” and then getting a registration in that state even though they are residents of Louisiana. They then try to
title the vehicle in Louisiana using that out of state registration. From what I understand there is a senator involved and that
is why these letters were asked to be sent out. I’m assuming they are trying to make some kind of determination on these vehicles
and if laws and policies need to be revised. I’m not sure what their thinking is, we were just told to mail these letters out.
Sorry I couldn’t be much help.

That is actually very helpful. I do have a copy of my original SF-97, so I Imagine that might be useful in the future.
I would like to know the senator's name if possible.

Thanks again
Kevin

I’m not sure who the senator is. This is coming down from administration. They did have us pull all imaging of the documents used
to title all these type vehicles so they have that information.

When my manager calls you ask her if she knows if a senator or legislature is involved and if she knows their name.

Well looky there. Hmmmm

 

[98G]

So we learned several things here -

1) This action is certainly prompted by people registering hmmwv's.

2) The state of LA can't differentiate a 6x6 2 1/2 ton truck from a 4x4 hmmwv.

3) The senator in question prefers to remain anonymous.