M105a2 advise

[Elijah95]

Alright so my connection to haul my m105a2 trailer to the GA rally has fallen through, so now I need an alternate to get it there. I don’t have anyone else in my AO to assist in transport, nor the money to pay for transport. Loading 1 trailer inside another, or loading it in the bed of my M923 isn’t an option either. So I was considering mounting a spare hitch on the rear of my other m105a2 that I camp out of and towing 2 trailers at once.

Any quick tips or advise? Safety is of utmost importance above all! Time is ticking

 

[Evil Dr. Porkchop]

There have been threads on tandem towing m105s before. The general consensus is don't even try it.

 

[Elijah95]

There have been threads on tandem towing m105s before. The general consensus is don't even try it.

Is it due to the short length causing wiggle between them? I’m researching currently

 

[Zed254]

You are from GA. 2 trips in the truck should work. That said, I was surprised to see a UPS tractor pulling 3 trailers in OH a couple weeks ago. I have seen doubles, but the triple surprised me.

 

[rchalmers3]

Is this the trailer you are intending to sell and or trade?

Rick

 

[porkysplace]

Is it due to the short length causing wiggle between them? I’m researching currently

You should probably check with the DMV but most states that allow doubles require the lead trailer to be a 5th wheel.

 

[Elijah95]

Is this the trailer you are intending to sell and or trade?

Rick

That’s the one! I have a modified 105 with stretched frame, on m35a3 wheels, and an s250 shelter that will be behind the truck, and considering pulling the other behind it

 

[rchalmers3]

Where in Georgia are you located? I'll be coming in to the rally from the east in my F250 Super Duty.

Rick

 

[Elijah95]

Where in Georgia are you located? I'll be coming in to the rally from the east in my F250 Super Duty.

Rick

The trailer is located in Newnan Georgia

 

[rchalmers3]

That's too far outa my way, otherwise I'd offer to tow it for you.

Rick

 

[Elijah95]

That's too far outa my way, otherwise I'd offer to tow it for you.

Rick

Thank you

 

[Scrounger]

You are from GA. 2 trips in the truck should work. That said, I was surprised to see a UPS bobtail pulling 3 trailers in OH a couple weeks ago. I have seen doubles, but the triple surprised me.

Bobtailing is driving a tractor with out a trailer. Triples are legal mostly west of OH and use 28’ trailers. Further out west they have mountain doubles with 48’ trailers. Out in Wyoming it is not unusual to see tandem axle tractors with a lift axle pulling doubles and the trailers are a triaxle with three lift axles. Then add in the dollies having four axles, with twenty axles that is a lot of tires to check.

 

[m16ty]

I’ll just offer this advice, if you tow M105s double, put about 500 lbs in the front of the front trailer. You do that, they will tow fine.

I have no idea if it’s legal or not. You see trailer dealers doing it all the time, towing new trailers from the manufacturer.

 

[BadRobot]

I saw double towing for M1102'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBzjE9xk6qQ

 

[Elijah95]

I’ll just offer this advice, if you tow M105s double, put about 500 lbs in the front of the front trailer. You do that, they will tow fine.

I have no idea if it’s legal or not. You see trailer dealers doing it all the time, towing new trailers from the manufacturer.

The extended 105 with s250 is the lead trailer and the 105 stripped down was going to be the follower.

 

[Elijah95]

The extra trailer is sold and being picked up after the rally, thanks for the help everyone.

The final plan I had was to attach a spare Pintle on the rear of my extended M105 and reinforce the rear channel, then build a light jumper pigtail to connect to rearmost trailer and take it into town to see how it handled;

 

[BadRobot]

This is mine.

 

[Elijah95]

This is mine.

View attachment 744865

Simple & effective; I like

 

[m16ty]

The extended 105 with s250 is the lead trailer and the 105 stripped down was going to be the follower.

That could still cause you problems, depending on how the front trailer with the shelter is balanced out. You just have to make sure you have enough weight in the front of the front trailer to counterbalance the tongue weight of the rear trailer. If you don't account for this, it will make the front trailer tongue light, and cause it to fishtail. Once the first trailer starts to fishtail, it will cause the rear trailer to really start swerving, and will get progressively worse until things get really out of hand.

 

[98G]

That could still cause you problems, depending on how the front trailer with the shelter is balanced out. You just have to make sure you have enough weight in the front of the front trailer to counterbalance the tongue weight of the rear trailer. If you don't account for this, it will make the front trailer tongue light, and cause it to fishtail. Once the first trailer starts to fishtail, it will cause the rear trailer to really start swerving, and will get progressively worse until things get really out of hand.

And this happens with absolutely no warning. It goes from no wiggle at all to thrashing side to side trying to snap your hitch instantly.

I'm not the most cautious, but I wouldn't tow double 105s...