M1083A1 Suspension Arms ie Dog Bones for Rear Axles

[Lugnuts]

I am finding as I get older that it is expedient to humble yourself and claim ignorance rather than repair and find out how this stuff is really assembled. On these torque arms I notice that the ends are constructed differently than the M35/ The M35's the Bushing get pushed out and that takes care of the bushing and the mounting bolt. The M1083A1 has a large ball on the end of the mounting bushing and rubber in the end but no longer can you just press it out.
This leads me to the conclusion that either the whole arm gets replaced or that somehow you replace the rubber in the ends. The price of the whole arm drives me to find out the truth before I just replace.
Would the knowledgable in this matter please steer in the correct direction of said matter and who might be the best vendor or person to get parts from?
Thank you
Lugnuts

 

[simp5782]

Seco/midwest has the complete arms.

LMTV FMTV Control Arm 2530-01-395-8774 00001-3019 12417270

LMTV FMTV Control Arm 2530-01-395-8774 00001-3019 12417270 New

secoparts.net

TORQUE ROD 5 TON

Get the TORQUE ROD 5 TON from Midwest Military Equipment. Fits various FMTV 5 TON models. High-quality part with multiple part alternate options. ITEM #30.

midwestmilitaryequipment.com

There is no part number listed for the insert itself.

ZF in Gainesville makes em under # 00001-3019

 

[Lugnuts]

Seco/midwest has the complete arms.

LMTV FMTV Control Arm 2530-01-395-8774 00001-3019 12417270

LMTV FMTV Control Arm 2530-01-395-8774 00001-3019 12417270 New

secoparts.net

TORQUE ROD 5 TON

Get the TORQUE ROD 5 TON from Midwest Military Equipment. Fits various FMTV 5 TON models. High-quality part with multiple part alternate options. ITEM #30.

midwestmilitaryequipment.com

There is no part number listed for the insert itself.

ZF in Gainesville makes em under # 00001-3019

Thank you, that is a start/ Memphis Equipment also stocks them as a whole arm/ I am also try to get the best price/ Do they make an insert?

 

[simp5782]

Thank you, that is a start/ Memphis Equipment also stocks them as a whole arm/ I am also try to get the best price/ Do they make an insert?

Not that I have seen.

 

[B-Dog]

Unfortunately, the joints are not serviceable.

 

[coachgeo]

Do they make heim or similar joints large enough to take the torture that is available more readily? As expensive as the NOS is, looks like you could have new ones made up for same cost and end up with a serviceable part.

Only thing bad about heim Im discovering is if you live in the rust belt.. they take ton of regular maintenance. If your around rust world....... use a different large joint that has a boot??

 

[wheelspinner]

I have the triangular locating bars NOS for the 6x6

 

[Suprman]

If you are ordering the torque rods online I would ask the dealer if they are original military parts or aftermarket copies made overseas prior to buying. So you at least know what you are getting.

 

[coachgeo]

Do they make heim or similar joints large enough to take the torture that is available more readily? As expensive as the NOS is, looks like you could have new ones made up for same cost and end up with a serviceable part.

Only thing bad about heim Im discovering is if you live in the rust belt.. they take ton of regular maintenance. If your around rust world....... use a different large joint that has a boot??

Canadian Rockwell sells ginormous heim joints Ive discovered. Makes since because they sell Meritor axles to Monster truck builders. they might have a suggestion for you .... or can even make you up new bones.

 

[jtcawrse]

[mention]Lugnuts [/mention] did you find a solution?


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[Lugnuts]

Seems like the solution is finding the best price right now. What have you got for a solution??? I'm listening!
My problem is I'm at the beginning of Brush Fire season and Annual Preventive Maintenance and as long as they don't fall off the truck isn't coming out of service! But great suggestions have been made and I haven't researched them yet.

 

[coachgeo]

Seems like the solution is finding the best price right now. What have you got for a solution??? I'm listening!
My problem is I'm at the beginning of Brush Fire season and Annual Preventive Maintenance and as long as they don't fall off the truck isn't coming out of service! But great suggestions have been made and I haven't researched them yet.

if this is for fire service then would think some types heim joints better than OEM. Nothing to melt maybe. Which goes back to contact Canadian Rockwell

 

[Lugnuts]

Yes, that indeed has possibilities. They come greasable also. So in my ignorance what is the difference between a Johnie Joint and a Heim Joint? Does anyone posses the center to center measurement on those torque arms? thank you

 

[jtcawrse]

Would this work for rebuilding?

CHASSIS TORQUE ROD TORSION SUSPENSION SEAL KIT W/ TOOL FMTV MTV 2510-01-499-5596 | eBay

FOR FMTV & MTV TRUCKS. TRUCK CHASSIS TORQUE ROD TORSION BAR SUSPENSION SEAL PARTS KIT W/ TOOL.

www.ebay.com

If the flea bay link does not work just search for "CHASSIS TORQUE ROD TORSION SUSPENSION SEAL KIT W/ TOOL FMTV MTV 2510-01-499-5596"

 

[Lugnuts]

Would this work for rebuilding?

CHASSIS TORQUE ROD TORSION SUSPENSION SEAL KIT W/ TOOL FMTV MTV 2510-01-499-5596 | eBay

FOR FMTV & MTV TRUCKS. TRUCK CHASSIS TORQUE ROD TORSION BAR SUSPENSION SEAL PARTS KIT W/ TOOL.

www.ebay.com

If the flea bay link does not work just search for "CHASSIS TORQUE ROD TORSION SUSPENSION SEAL KIT W/ TOOL FMTV MTV 2510-01-499-5596"

Thanks for the input but I went to EBay and looked at the instructions and I don't see that this would fit my needs unless the seal was designed to shield a ball bearing type application. I guess I don't know on what or how these are applied to the torque arms. If anyone has an explanation I would love to hear.

 

[jtcawrse]

It looks to me like this seal kit would replace the existing seals on the torque arms. I've never done this so I'm not sure either. Hopefully someone who has can jump in and give their 2 cents. @Suprman ?

 

[coachgeo]

Yes, that indeed has possibilities. They come greasable also. So in my ignorance what is the difference between a Johnie Joint and a Heim Joint? Does anyone posses the center to center measurement on those torque arms? thank you

Johnie Joint is more enclosed..... and many rebuild-able... it is also ball and socket where the ball rides around in Poly urethane or similar cups... where a Heim is greased metal on metal ..... that is more open to the elements.... and not sure if any are rebuild able.

Again though Im no expert..... curious if they make johnie joint as large as those available in heim? curious how large the make Tie rod ends for that matter.. if they make huge ones of those too..... esp. if they are threaded...... then that opens up options to experiment with all three types over the years if one wisely made the bone that holds the ends with a thread that would be a bit universal for any of the large ends across all three types.

 

[coachgeo]

Might have found you Johnie Joints big enough and with a discount code if you act fast enough.

see this video