M109 trailer Conversion thread

[vinny-socom1]

I have an extra 105 axle with springs for sale!!! $40.00 and its yours!!! I'm going with the 10bolt axles so my truck spare will work for both!! Plus I think the tandum 53" tires will look good too.

Vinny

 

[Sevo]

I have an extra 105 axle with springs for sale!!! $40.00 and its yours!!! I'm going with the 10bolt axles so my truck spare will work for both!! Plus I think the tandum 53" tires will look good too.

Vinny

Vinny,

You have a PM

 

[neilhendrix]

I hope you get yours ready for the Ga rally instead of staying in a whimpy old cabin.opcorn:

 

[Recovry4x4]

I hope you get yours ready for the Ga rally instead of staying in a whimpy old cabin.opcorn:

I take no offense to your cabin comment. I've spent my days deep in the weeds, I'm staying in the cabin with my hot showers.

 

[ohnuts]

It should look like this. I have an M185A3, if i take off the front and turn it into a camper. That will cut my insurance by one truck. Only thing is I love old hardware and cutting is tuff. Thinking about selling the M35A2 for a 5Ton that can pull at highway speeds.

Question how well do these monster campers stop behind a truck without working brakes on the axles?

 

[neilhendrix]

I take no offense to your cabin comment. I've spent my days deep in the weeds, I'm staying in the cabin with my hot showers.

Just a little poke at Chris. Hot showers are very cool.

 

[neilhendrix]

I plan to put a complete brake system from a M200 trailer on the conversion , even add an extra air tank and master cyl. Something we`ll have to play with and work out.

 

[Recovry4x4]

Food for thought on brakes. The M295 chassis has a nearly identical suspension system as the deuce. For brakes it uses the standard relay valve as found on the M105 trailers. After the relay valve the system splits in 2 and separate air lines run to separate chambers which actuate separate master cylinders. Each axle has its own brake system only sharing air. Here's the neat thing, the chamber and master cylinders are the exact same as the M105 so to the folks that chop up these M105s, keep all that brake stuff. For all you folks who built the handy dandy brake bleeder, it's easily adapted to the 105 master cylinders. Just ask and I'll show you how.

 

[vinny-socom1]

Well when I add the commercial axles I plan on using the air brake set up so all I will need to do is extend the hoses to the tongue and add gladhands.

Vinny

 

[vinny-socom1]

It should look like this. I have an M185A3, if i take off the front and turn it into a camper. That will cut my insurance by one truck. Only thing is I love old hardware and cutting is tuff. Thinking about selling the M35A2 for a 5Ton that can pull at highway speeds.

Question how well do these monster campers stop behind a truck without working brakes on the axles?

anymore pics of this set up??

Vinny

 

[neilhendrix]

I plan to have a M C to each side using shared air to the valves. I have 2 M Cs . they should be pretty esay to mount and hook up.

Pics will be posted when we install the tongue on Friday at John Winslows. Take a very easy , careful ,safe trip home where all the finishing touches will be done.

 

[Recovry4x4]

If you have a MC for each side and one fails, you will only have brakes on one side. Would this cause problems during crisis braking?

 

[neilhendrix]

Good question. This is/will be a feel as you go thing. I plan to test in a good area such as a field or just jack it up and apply brakes. I will leave plenty of stopping distance the way people pull in front of you these days and mount the M Cs where the fluid can be checked every time I pull the trailer.

Do you think I would be better off with 1 M C?

All help and ideas are greatly appreciated (SP) ?

 

[Recovry4x4]

2 master cylinders is great but I'd have a master for each axle, not each side. At least that way in the event of a failure in one hydraulic system, you will still have the other axle to assist in stopping.

 

[neilhendrix]

each axle would be better. good idea thanks. I hope Chris is watching this .

 

[SCSG-G4]

Neil,
Both you and Chris should consider putting two MC's in, but do one per axle, so you don't lose all brakes on any one side. One to the front, one to the back axle of the pair and you have a poor man's split system, at least on the trailer!

 

[Recovry4x4]

When you go to Winslow's, check out some of the trailers he has. He had a bunch of the trailers that use the M295 chassis (M447, M749, M750 and M313). All of these have everything you need to make a 1st class system for the 109 trailer. All of the stuff is common with the M105 too. If you had one relay valve and 2 chamber/ master assys, you would have all the hard parts you need.

 

[neilhendrix]

I have a M200 and a M105 system to use. But I do like the one on each axle idea. Now if we could have a rally in my back yard we could have a work day. I`ll furnish the beer. but if we do beer the 109 might get turned upside down .

 

[neilhendrix]

Keep the ideas flowing

 

[alexace]

I can't remember the model, but I saw a 10 ton flat bed trailer with a standard pintle hitch and 11r20s, looked like it would be perfect to throw an m109 box on top of. It looked made for a 5 ton truck to pull it. I think the model was like an m345 or an m235 or something like that. I'll try to find it.