• Steel Soldiers now has a few new forums, read more about it at: New Munitions Forums!

  • Microsoft MSN, Live, Hotmail, Outlook email users may not be receiving emails. We are working to resolve this issue. Please add support@steelsoldiers.com to your trusted contacts.

M1101 M1102 out of inventory

KansasBobcat

Member
641
8
18
Location
San Antonio, TX
A friend who works as DA civilian and is retired military told me that all the M1101 and M1102 trailers are being removed from inventory. Has anyone else heard that and is there a replacement. There seems to be a lot of them for sale on GL. Over 80 at last Ft. Hood sale. Prices seem reasonable with 2010 and 2011 production going highest. Many look unused with no unit markings and new tires!
 

bikeman

Well-known member
2,894
502
113
Location
Ft. Bragg, NC
We have turned over a large number of M1101/2 trailers to Dispo Services (DRMO). However, we are authorized them, and continue to be authorized them as far as I can tell. We do have a surplus of these trailers, more than we need. I believe the Army is just 'life cycling' these so we are keeping only the most recent.

Oddly enough, I saw a USAF unit on Bragg drive past me earlier this week with an M1165 pulling a M101 or M105 trailer.
 

sigo

Lieutenant Colonel
Steel Soldiers Supporter
1,704
414
83
Location
Leavenworth, KS
M1101/02 trailers are not being phased out. We just have too many. As we deactivate BCTs and deactivate functional brigades we only move some of the personnel authorizations to other BCTs and overall the number of personnel goes down. Personnel are tied to vehicles, and vehicles are tied to personnel. If a unit loses personnel authorizations they lose the vehicles required to move them. If they lose vehicles they also lose some personnel required to sustain the vehicles, then they might lose a couple more vehicles required to transport those sustainers. Formulas are used when TOEs are created to ensure the correct MOSs are authorized and the correct number and type of vehicles are authorized to meet the units mission and achieve the desired mobility factor. Units then turn in or requisition equipment to meet the authorizations in the MTOE. Or something like that.

We also created a massive property nightmare for ourselves over the last 12 years first from the BCT transformation with all the reflagging and moving, then with two simultaneous wars and constant combat rotations. Our buildup into two theaters, rapid expansion of the Army, near constant modernization initiatives, then subsequent closeout of two wars further complicated things. Equipment is worn out, a lot of units have more stuff than they're supposed to have, and we just don't need as much stuff as we did a few years ago. Thats why you're seeing so much get surplussed.

Oh yea, everywhere I've seen an M101 since about 2006 it was in lieu of a M1101/02. M101s are no longer required equipment, but they're hanging on filling M1101/02 authorizations because staffs, commanders or loggie types haven't had an opportunity or just haven't done the work to get them replaced. Or they're FOI and aren't accounted for properly.
 
Last edited:

Stonepicker1

Well-known member
2,446
86
48
Location
Coconut Creek, Florida
M1101/02 trailers are not being phased out. We just have too many. As we deactivate BCTs and deactivate functional brigades we only move some of the personnel authorizations to other BCTs and overall the number of personnel goes down. Personnel are tied to vehicles, and vehicles are tied to personnel. If a unit loses personnel authorizations they lose the vehicles required to move them. If they lose vehicles they also lose some personnel required to sustain the vehicles, then they might lose a couple more vehicles required to transport those sustainers. Formulas are used when TOEs are created to ensure the correct MOSs are authorized and the correct number and type of vehicles are authorized to meet the units mission and achieve the desired mobility factor. Units then turn in or requisition equipment to meet the authorizations in the MTOE. Or something like that.

We also created a massive property nightmare for ourselves over the last 12 years first from the BCT transformation with all the reflagging and moving, then with two simultaneous wars and constant combat rotations. Our buildup into two theaters, rapid expansion of the Army, then subsequent closeout of two wars further complicated things. Equipment is worn out, a lot of units have more stuff than they're supposed to have, and we just don't need as much stuff as we did a few years ago. Thats why you're seeing so much get surplussed.

Oh yea, everywhere I've seen an M101 since about 2006 it was in lieu of a M1101/02. M101s are no longer required equipment, but they're hanging in filling M1101/02 authorizations because staffs, commanders or loggie types haven't had an opportunity or just haven't done the work to get them replaced. Or they're FOI and aren't accounted for properly.
:ditto:

Plus google "HMMWV Replacement"

Contract for more M1101/M1102 trailers to be built is approved. X amount are made for the prime movers(HMMWV)

Contract to build and upgrade HMMWV's is disapproved. No need for the extra HMMWV trailers now.2cents

HMMWV's that some units have are going through a "reset program" getting upgraded. But I don't think anymore are being made.

Bottom line is "more trailers then prime movers"
 
Top
AdBlock Detected

We get it, advertisements are annoying!

Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks useful features of our website like our supporting vendors. Their ads help keep Steel Soldiers going. Please consider disabling your ad blockers for the site. Thanks!

I've Disabled AdBlock
No Thanks