M35A series brake shoes

[jimm1009]

Hello fellow MVers. I had two wheel cylinders stick and the forward rear axle got hot on both sides.
I have all six new Wagner wheel cylinders and all new flex hoses ready plus I am replacing all bearings
and seals on all wheels but I just was not quite ready to do it so soon.
What I need a honest opinion on is replacement brake shoes. They are not cheap and let's face it, the "N.S." products
while plentiful are not all equal to OEM parts. Many vendors sell this brand and some of it is ok but brake shoes are not something
that I am willing to skip on in quality.
While I have not removed the drums yet I do know that I want to replace the shoes and hardware on this axle as they had to have been
overheated pretty badly.
I guess long story short, are the shoes made by this "brand" ok or should I as a responsible owner try to either reline (or contract the relining) the ones that I have or go to
another brand?
jimm1009 here on S.S.
Jim

 

[tobyS]

There are plenty of people here to answer your question but C&C Surplus in Unionville, Indiana is not far from you for shipping and they rebuild enough trucks to give advise and sell good shoes.

 

[porkysplace]

Unless you went metal to metal Fleetpride can reline them

 

[M35A2-AZ]

I had some shoes relined and they have worked fine.

 

[jimm1009]

That is great news. Can you two give me the contact info or at least point me to city and state? Jim

PS: Do either of you remember an approximate cost or percentage of savings? The shoe set is anywhere from $68
to 75 depending on the vendor.

 

[cattlerepairman]

A lot of brake friction lining material is produced in Asia, as are complete brake sets, for name brands.
I have had the aftermarket shoes on mine since 2009 without issues.



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[M35A2-AZ]

That is great news. Can you two give me the contact info or at least point me to city and state? Jim

PS: Do either of you remember an approximate cost or percentage of savings? The shoe set is anywhere from $68
to 75 depending on the vendor.

Sorry I do not remember the cost, But I know it was less then new shoes. Any Brake and clutch shop should be able to do it.

TruckPro | Truck and Trailer Spare Parts

truckpro.com

 

[Mullaney]

Sorry I do not remember the cost, But I know it was less then new shoes. Any Brake and clutch shop should be able to do it.

TruckPro | Truck and Trailer Spare Parts

truckpro.com

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TruckPro seems to qualify as good people and have quite a lot of parts "on the shelf".
The guys here in Charlotte seem to have a positive attitude and are willing to go the extra mile...

 

[frank8003]

It depends on how one does adjust them

 

[Mullaney]

It depends on how one does adjust them

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Yes Sir! You are right frank8003

Discovering how the cam on the bottom of the shoe(s) functions really is magic.
The hardest part is teaching the goal.
GOAL is to have as much shoe to drum contact as possible.
EVEN contact being the key...

 

[fasttruck]

Read the reading -.20 tells it all.

 

[frank8003]

On mine the brakes came first. It is really easy to buy a car/truck
and get somebody else to fix it but not a Deuce

 

[frank8003]

Some things I had to handmake as I could not pull the Rockwell just to fix a thingie, so I invented stuff.

 

[jimm1009]

Some things I had to handmake as I could not pull the Rockwell just to fix a thingie, so I invented stuff.View attachment 835923

I purchased a pallet jack like that and it looks like mine as mine is a Toyota brand. Two metal braces coming up from the frame to the wheel should hold it in place and allow the device to handle that 400 to 500 lb. weight of the tire and wheel. MRAP tires on mine.

 

[Mullaney]

On mine the brakes came first. It is really easy to buy a car/truck
and get somebody else to fix it but not a Deuce

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frank8003,

Nicely documented Frank!
Even better pictures rather than drawings in the TM's.

 

[frank8003]

A few more things about Deuce brakes to help
The things that are supposed to be able to rotate can be frozen up.
Some of my notes and I never had soldier B so devised way to get circlips off without damage.
The shoes should adjust easily and maintain alignment but not allowed to post .MOV files here.

 

[jimm1009]

A few more things about Deuce brakes to help
The things that are supposed to be able to rotate can be frozen up.
Some of my notes and I never had soldier B so devised way to get circlips off without damage.
The shoes should adjust easily and maintain alignment but not allowed to post .MOV files here.

Frank, sent you a pm. Jim

 

[Gunfreak25]

Frank, I noticed in your pictures you have the brake shoe hold down washer cups on the top bolt, on either side of the spring. It is my understanding the solid cup goes on the lower hold down bolt on the shoe. At least that’s how my truck came to me, the TM is a little tricky to look at showing this.

 

[frank8003]

Frank, I noticed in your pictures you have the brake shoe hold down washer cups on the top bolt, on either side of the spring. It is my understanding the solid cup goes on the lower hold down bolt on the shoe. At least that’s how my truck came to me, the TM is a little tricky to look at showing this.

Yeah, I spent about twenty hours getting that part right
Figure 89 in the TM
|Drove me nuts
send to me an email and I will send the as done in .MOV files so one may see it all working really good.

 

[Gunfreak25]

Same here, and just because that’s how it came off the truck doesn’t mean it was or wasn’t right so I double checked!