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How high is the gear oil suppose to be in the Winch gear boxs suppose to be?
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M35A2 Winch Oil
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The level plugs are hidden when the winch is installed, so either remove the winch and open the level plugs and pump in GL1 90wt gear oil till it comes out......... Or, drain both sides, pump 1 1/2 pints in the worm gear side and 3/4 pint in the engegement side. JT
The level plugs are hidden when the winch is installed, so either remove the winch and open the level plugs and pump in GL1 90wt gear oil till it comes out......... Or, drain both sides, pump 1 1/2 pints in the worm gear side and 3/4 pint in the engegement side. JT
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RE: Winch oil
Looking up from the bottom of the winch I can see a bolt near the bottom of the case. on the other side I can see a slotted plug near the front of the winch on the side of the worm gearbox. Are those the fill level plugs?
Looking up from the bottom of the winch I can see a bolt near the bottom of the case. on the other side I can see a slotted plug near the front of the winch on the side of the worm gearbox. Are those the fill level plugs?
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No, they aren't level plugs. The slotted plug on the driven side of the winch is the drag brake for the drum so it doesn't free spool while you are pulling cable off with winch in Unlock mode. The bolt on the worm side, well you didn't describe it well enough. But it ain't the level plug, it can't be seen while the winch is installed. I told you how to get the level correct earlier in these posts. It is the accepted method. JT
No, they aren't level plugs. The slotted plug on the driven side of the winch is the drag brake for the drum so it doesn't free spool while you are pulling cable off with winch in Unlock mode. The bolt on the worm side, well you didn't describe it well enough. But it ain't the level plug, it can't be seen while the winch is installed. I told you how to get the level correct earlier in these posts. It is the accepted method. JT
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The Lube Order states 1.25 pints in the worm gear side. For the clutch side it says to fill so level is 6 7/8" below fill plug.
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Honestly, just do what "jatonka" said to do. I mean really, how are you going to accurately measure that oil level on the clutch side ?
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Oh my lanta this is an old post!
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I posted what the lube order stated for all the rest of the anal guys out there like me that read these things. I used a 1/8" rod to measure the amount on the clutch side. It took 11.99678 fluid ounces of oil to get it to the 6 7/8" level. For those looking for a pint to fluid ounces conversion, 3/4 pints is 12 floz.
An interesting side note is that putting 3/4 pints in the clutch side just brings the oil level up to the very bottom portion of the drum seal to where all it is keeping oiled is the seal. Explains why so many clutches are rusted on the drum shaft.
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"An interesting side note is that putting 3/4 pints in the clutch side just brings the oil level up to the very bottom portion of the drum seal to where all it is keeping oiled is the seal. Explains why so many clutches are rusted on the drum shaft."
This is most interesting.........................
This is most interesting.........................
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Your suppose to run the winch on a regular basis. It's called exercising the equipment. If you do this then the oil is able to coat all the parts. It's when the winch is almost never used that the rust develops. When I was still in the Marines we would regularly take out all the equipment and run every single item on them. If it had a winch then we would unspool the whole wire rope and then re-spool it adding some oil to the cable at the same time. This happened every month, rain or shine. Since I was the only one rated to use the generator/welder I had to weld about five pounds of rod. Usually 7018. It didn't matter what I welded I just had to use that amount of rod. All to make sure that every piece of equipment was combat ready. My best friend was the 30ton Drott operator. A giant mobile crane. To properly set the cables it needed weight on them so we usually connected a deuce or 5ton to it and he would pick it up. I remember once the cables got jammed and it took days to fix that !!! Someone other then Barby had tried to use the crane. We ended up loosing over 100ft of 1" cable !!! That made the Commander real happy !!!! NOT !!!!
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I totally agree with needing to run everything on a regular basis, but there is no way running the winch gets any oil on the clutch parts.
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Yes, there is... 
Pour a cup or two of gear oil inside the drum. Either before final assembly, or after removing this plug....
Pour a cup or two of gear oil inside the drum. Either before final assembly, or after removing this plug....
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Gringeltaub, that is great info. I will do it.
The rest of this posting is for the anal types, you practical guys will just get frustrated reading the rest.
I figured the drum shaft bearing on the worm gear side would get some oil when the shaft gear turned. Clutch and and clutch side shaft bearing on the other side is a different story. I can see were adding oil inside the drum would get some oil to the drum shaft bearing on the clutch side, but it would have to work it's way thru the bearing to get to the clutch parts. I was planning for future servicing of the winch to use an oil can with a long flexible hose aimed toward the clutch parts to add oil.
The rest of this posting is for the anal types, you practical guys will just get frustrated reading the rest.
I figured the drum shaft bearing on the worm gear side would get some oil when the shaft gear turned. Clutch and and clutch side shaft bearing on the other side is a different story. I can see were adding oil inside the drum would get some oil to the drum shaft bearing on the clutch side, but it would have to work it's way thru the bearing to get to the clutch parts. I was planning for future servicing of the winch to use an oil can with a long flexible hose aimed toward the clutch parts to add oil.
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Yes - and not so difficult, actually: oil creeps, even vertically. Also, the sleeve bearing has oil grooves cut in it.
