M931A1 carrying capacity.

[Redbaron1]

The ultimate would be to an Rayden air ride in the rear ,in my opinion it gives the best of all worlds in a tandem suspension. Made in Alberta for the oil patch.

Glennginneer, how many yards of gravel can you haul with your dump?

 

[Glenngineer]

Do you know if Rayden make a system that bolts onto the 931a1?

I talked to them and they can adapt the suspension to any appropriate truck with the right measurements

 

[Glenngineer]

Glennginneer, how many yards of gravel can you haul with your dump?

10-12 Haven't used it yet ,bringing it home tomorrow to work on it over the winter .Nahanni just finished there part of the truck a few days ago.

 

[Redbaron1]

I talked to them and they can adapt the suspension to any appropriate truck with the right measurements

That's cool.

 

[Glenngineer]

If your not set on a M931A1 you could look the specs on a M916A2 ,double frame bigger axles more power.More money though

 

[Redbaron1]

10-12 Haven't used it yet ,bringing it home tomorrow to work on it over the winter .Nahanni just finished there part of the truck a few days ago.

Oh ok. It looks sharp.

If your not set on a M931A1 you could look the specs on a M916A2 ,double frame bigger axles more power.More money though

You know of any for sale?

 

[simp5782]

916a1, a2 and A3s are off the charts on prices. 25 to 35k is pretty ridiculous

916A0s are cheaper in the 4 to 6k range. I purchased one today at auction for 5500

I have a heavier walking beam rated at 58k with parabolic springs for the 5 ton.

 

[Glenngineer]

916a1, a2 and A3s are off the charts on prices. 25 to 35k is pretty ridiculous

916A0s are cheaper in the 4 to 6k range. I purchased one today at auction for 5500

I have a heavier walking beam rated at 58k with parabolic springs for the 5 ton.

I think we would be getting to where the strength of the frame would be the weak point. Your thoughts ?

 

[simp5782]

I think we would be getting to where the strength of the frame would be the weak point. Your thoughts ?

Ive towed more with a 5 ton, hauled more in a 5 ton and driven more Miles in one than anyone on this site. The frame can handle it plenty well enough. I built a 927 truck with a 40yard dump bed. It works till this daym

The long wheel based m939 trucks have a frame reinforcement on them that can be adapted to the cargo and tractor wheel bases.

 

[Glenngineer]

Ive towed more with a 5 ton, hauled more in a 5 ton and driven more Miles in one than anyone on this site. The frame can handle it plenty well enough. I built a 927 truck with a 40yard dump bed. It works till this daym

The long wheel based m939 trucks have a frame reinforcement on them that can be adapted to the cargo and tractor wheel bases.

I would be interested in seeing a picture of that reinforcement .

 

[Redbaron1]

916a1, a2 and A3s are off the charts on prices. 25 to 35k is pretty ridiculous

916A0s are cheaper in the 4 to 6k range. I purchased one today at auction for 5500

I have a heavier walking beam rated at 58k with parabolic springs for the 5 ton.

Does the 916A0 have the cat 16 spd?

 

[simp5782]

5 tons can flex really well too

I would be interested in seeing a picture of that reinforcement .

I will

Does the 916A0 have the cat 16 spd?

Yes.

 

[simp5782]

I would be interested in seeing a picture of that reinforcement .

Partial pics of the reinforcement. You can see the wide frame in the driveshaft pic


As well as the flex of the M923 frame

 

[Redbaron1]

I would be interested in seeing a picture of that reinforcement .

5 tons can flex really well too
I will
Yes.

I have never owned a 5 ton, or any military truck for that matter, but have designed and built some equipment over the years, and the frame on the 931a1 is pretty beefy. I would not have any worries about the frame for what I am planning. Axles are my only concern. Well, and power... I hear the 250 cummins are a bit sluggish... On the Cat 16 speed, I have heard people who love them and hate them. What's the story on them simp5782?

 

[simp5782]

I have never owned a 5 ton, or any military truck for that matter, but have designed and built some equipment over the years, and the frame on the 931a1 is pretty beefy. I would not have any worries about the frame for what I am planning. Axles are my only concern. Well, and power... I hear the 250 cummins are a bit sluggish... On the Cat 16 speed, I have heard people who love them and hate them. What's the story on them simp5782?

If its operated daily they are good. I ran one for a long time. You learn to hate em. they are nice to operate. Member Ponway runs one everyday in his western star. Its just a triple countershaft transmission with an air operated valve body. The one in my 5 ton operated great. It brought alot of power out of the NHC250 before i put the big cam too

 

[fasttruck]

King pins ? Lubricate them early and often. All this about tires and suspension is fine but the million dollar question is will you have enough brakes to stop it ?

 

[Redbaron1]

Partial pics of the reinforcement. You can see the wide frame in the driveshaft pic


As well as the flex of the M923 frame

If its operated daily they are good. I ran one for a long time. You learn to hate em. they are nice to operate. Member Ponway runs one everyday in his western star. Its just a triple countershaft transmission with an air operated valve body. The one in my 5 ton operated great. It brought alot of power out of the NHC250 before i put the big cam too

Hmm. I almost bid on one at auction up here, but what I read that was negative about them, and running it the 20 ft back and forth at the auction scared me off. Really wanted the big cam tho. lol It would have nice to actually take it out for a spin. Maybe too, the thing had been sitting and apparently they gum up, hence the comment of daily use eh?

 

[simp5782]

Hmm. I almost bid on one at auction up here, but what I read that was negative about them, and running it the 20 ft back and forth at the auction scared me off. Really wanted the big cam tho. lol It would have nice to actually take it out for a spin. Maybe too, the thing had been sitting and apparently they gum up, hence the comment of daily use eh?

Any o ring needs lubrication. Most dont get it from sitting. You can put a mister on them to oil them continously. Daily operation they are fine.

You can easily put a big cam in a 5 ton. Just gotta redo the front mount.

 

[Redbaron1]

King pins ? Lubricate them early and often. All this about tires and suspension is fine but the million dollar question is will you have enough brakes to stop it ?

Good question. I'm only doing 40 km/hr, so I don't see that as a problem with 6 braking wheels. I use my brakes so little in the rig I run now, I have never bought new shoes in 20 years.

 

[Redbaron1]

Any o ring needs lubrication. Most dont get it from sitting. You can put a mister on them to oil them continously. Daily operation they are fine.

You can easily put a big cam in a 5 ton. Just gotta redo the front mount.

Will the Allison in the 931a1 handle the big Cam hp ok? I have a neighbor with a big Cam he's almost giving away.