G Carttar
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Agree. The generator SILL BE the service. Yes, grounded "at the generator" can mean the generator frame ground tied to the ground stake at the house.
What I was trying to say is that the service ground for the house is at the meter panel, and therefore is part of the utility source because it is bonded to the house neutral at that point. That ground and the utility neutral comes from the utility company.
A generator installation should be isolated from the utility, including the hot legs and the neutral.
If there is a ground stake at the house, then that ground stake is useable.
The bugaboo is making sure that the utility neutral and the generator neutral are not tied together if the utility ground is used.
Thanks for quoting the manual entry for 1ph 120V operation, I did not have the manual at my fingertips.
I have several TCC-60 communications shelters. They are configured so that the neutral/ground bond is made in the shelter. If I power them from a GFI circuit it drives the GFI crazy because it sees two current paths to ground, one at the source panel, and another at the shelter itself.
The Military assumed that the shelters would be the "entrance" and that the generator would be the "service". And in their normal configuration, that would be the case. Ground, neutral, and hot run from a genny to the shelter, and the ground bond is made in the shelter.
When I use my shelters on GFI circuits supplied from a building, I often have to lift the ground bond in the shelter. If I run them from a genny, I have to use the ground bond in the shelter.
I was NOT suggesting that people power their houses by backfeeding a dryer outlet. I was cautioning NOT to do this under any circumstance, especially with one of these gennies.
Greg Carttar
What I was trying to say is that the service ground for the house is at the meter panel, and therefore is part of the utility source because it is bonded to the house neutral at that point. That ground and the utility neutral comes from the utility company.
A generator installation should be isolated from the utility, including the hot legs and the neutral.
If there is a ground stake at the house, then that ground stake is useable.
The bugaboo is making sure that the utility neutral and the generator neutral are not tied together if the utility ground is used.
Thanks for quoting the manual entry for 1ph 120V operation, I did not have the manual at my fingertips.
I have several TCC-60 communications shelters. They are configured so that the neutral/ground bond is made in the shelter. If I power them from a GFI circuit it drives the GFI crazy because it sees two current paths to ground, one at the source panel, and another at the shelter itself.
The Military assumed that the shelters would be the "entrance" and that the generator would be the "service". And in their normal configuration, that would be the case. Ground, neutral, and hot run from a genny to the shelter, and the ground bond is made in the shelter.
When I use my shelters on GFI circuits supplied from a building, I often have to lift the ground bond in the shelter. If I run them from a genny, I have to use the ground bond in the shelter.
I was NOT suggesting that people power their houses by backfeeding a dryer outlet. I was cautioning NOT to do this under any circumstance, especially with one of these gennies.
Greg Carttar