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A friend has loaned me his new 2016 build date MEP-1040 10kw set, it came totally drained, and missing oil and fuel filters, The "Wizzard" or Yoda .. Guy Fang, got me on the right fuel filter and I'm using an oil filter from i think my 802/3 stash .. I can see it is a shorter body or canister length, but till i get to a NAPPA or hopefully some member here see's my plea and can cite me some commercial Wix or common filter, i need to get this solved asap. Because ? at this early testing and review juncture, the set is running 'hot' .. This afternoon in a short test period up to 197 degrees water temp the THERMOSTAT had not opened, best i can tell from early reading the -24 manual 200-209 or so is the typical t'stat opening temp. But i stopped short on going higher because in my experience the actual oil filter I'm using felt unusually hot,. And the -24 does make mention hot oil conditions can cause or contribute to high water temp. While i am seeing good oil PSI as i have said i know the canister is shorter that what is depicted in the various pictures, so until i get what i think is a real oil filter, I'm leaving open the possibility hot oil is contributing to my high water temp.
As the -24 mentions I'm not sure i don't have all the air bled out of the water system so this adds another variable into the mix of high water temp warning on my control screen. I have the NSN for the oil filter, but my parts houses don't seem to be able to cross reference this number into something commercial on the shelf.
Initial testing and operating including load-banking, the 1040, little doubt its a trick set, Cummins did a nice design and layout, but as a just straight up if i had to choose, between an 803 or a 1040.. I'll take the 803 series, based on ease or accessibility of the interior parts and layout, much more space and accessibility with the 803 ..The 80X is near full analog design and technology and easy to troubleshoot and economical to support as well parts are pretty easy to source or commercial fit and form interchange.. For the foreseeable future MEP-1040 parts will be very difficult to source from my initial review, everything is much like our modern vehicles and is an electronic block or modual, and few of us here have access to the Federal parts stock inventory for replacement parts. But those issues aside, no escaping the color control panel is trick ass and has just about every programming feature we can ever want. Cummins has taken full advantage of all the market place and quality vendors can offer as well good engineering history. It's also to remember this engine is a 3 cyl Yanmar with a Turbo and electronic Governor, but i don't see or feel your backing up using Yanmar anything, Yanmar is proven, pretty easily sourced and from my experiences, reasonably priced and readily available. Block loading and unloading this electronic gov, my guess did as best it can when you factor it is a 3 cyl and turbo charged engine, that is a tuff set of conditions to keep a steady state and recovery minimized during block loading/unloading conditions.. Cummins moved away from the near iconic cloth and clear plastic covered silver plated Mil Spec wire as well the typical numbering scheme we know, That was likely not an easy change for the MEP office to accept, my guess is Cummins drew a hard line and won. IMO at this point the wiring diagrams are difficult to follow, the actual wiring used is a mix of Teflon and MTW type wiring, I'm mixed on this.
A feature i do like is TRC [technology research corp] in Clearwater Florida is totally looped out as a vendor of anything, my swipe at TRC , TRC is not easy or friendly to deal with for after market single users as most of us represent, as well, typically very high cost, course the flip of this, is its all now Cummins sole source , but this will be seen as time wears on how it effect us as individual users, TRC had a long long 30 year plus run, we tried to replace them as much as we could in the 80x B series it was difficult. I also find it odd or confusing why Cummins went or continued to use the QUAD field winding on the actual Generator head. They had a choice, the Gen head is not sourced, it is all inhouse Cummins design and produced.
I will close this for today, seek a proper oil filter and work to resolve the high water temp and report more very soon by Sunday evening at latest. Thanx for the read and ur time. mac/mc
As the -24 mentions I'm not sure i don't have all the air bled out of the water system so this adds another variable into the mix of high water temp warning on my control screen. I have the NSN for the oil filter, but my parts houses don't seem to be able to cross reference this number into something commercial on the shelf.
Initial testing and operating including load-banking, the 1040, little doubt its a trick set, Cummins did a nice design and layout, but as a just straight up if i had to choose, between an 803 or a 1040.. I'll take the 803 series, based on ease or accessibility of the interior parts and layout, much more space and accessibility with the 803 ..The 80X is near full analog design and technology and easy to troubleshoot and economical to support as well parts are pretty easy to source or commercial fit and form interchange.. For the foreseeable future MEP-1040 parts will be very difficult to source from my initial review, everything is much like our modern vehicles and is an electronic block or modual, and few of us here have access to the Federal parts stock inventory for replacement parts. But those issues aside, no escaping the color control panel is trick ass and has just about every programming feature we can ever want. Cummins has taken full advantage of all the market place and quality vendors can offer as well good engineering history. It's also to remember this engine is a 3 cyl Yanmar with a Turbo and electronic Governor, but i don't see or feel your backing up using Yanmar anything, Yanmar is proven, pretty easily sourced and from my experiences, reasonably priced and readily available. Block loading and unloading this electronic gov, my guess did as best it can when you factor it is a 3 cyl and turbo charged engine, that is a tuff set of conditions to keep a steady state and recovery minimized during block loading/unloading conditions.. Cummins moved away from the near iconic cloth and clear plastic covered silver plated Mil Spec wire as well the typical numbering scheme we know, That was likely not an easy change for the MEP office to accept, my guess is Cummins drew a hard line and won. IMO at this point the wiring diagrams are difficult to follow, the actual wiring used is a mix of Teflon and MTW type wiring, I'm mixed on this.
A feature i do like is TRC [technology research corp] in Clearwater Florida is totally looped out as a vendor of anything, my swipe at TRC , TRC is not easy or friendly to deal with for after market single users as most of us represent, as well, typically very high cost, course the flip of this, is its all now Cummins sole source , but this will be seen as time wears on how it effect us as individual users, TRC had a long long 30 year plus run, we tried to replace them as much as we could in the 80x B series it was difficult. I also find it odd or confusing why Cummins went or continued to use the QUAD field winding on the actual Generator head. They had a choice, the Gen head is not sourced, it is all inhouse Cummins design and produced.
I will close this for today, seek a proper oil filter and work to resolve the high water temp and report more very soon by Sunday evening at latest. Thanx for the read and ur time. mac/mc
