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I'm sure that I spent more time than a normal electrician when I wired my house. The inspector was even impressed. Romex cable was all turned with the writing down. No twists, all nice and neat... The breaker panel was almost as neat as these VERTEILUNG panels. Only thing he wanted was to show me how the receptacles needed more wire in the bundle (under the wire nuts). I do have to say that the extra "tails" have been nice when a replacement was installed 20 or 30 years ago.
Then again too, I am easily amused.
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With a little work, you could be a good electro installer!! 
I worked with a guy who was an artiest. Both of those pictures are naked. Nothing is hooked up to them. This guy I knew, when he was done hooking up the cables, it looked like a painted picture. We say Sauber. Clean. When he was done, people used to take pictures of his work. He could wire a box so fast, it was like he waved a magic wand. Simply amazing.
Of course he was worthless at anything else. Lazy. So that's what job he had when we were installing houses or industrial jobs.
I worked with a guy who was an artiest. Both of those pictures are naked. Nothing is hooked up to them. This guy I knew, when he was done hooking up the cables, it looked like a painted picture. We say Sauber. Clean. When he was done, people used to take pictures of his work. He could wire a box so fast, it was like he waved a magic wand. Simply amazing.
Of course he was worthless at anything else. Lazy. So that's what job he had when we were installing houses or industrial jobs.
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I finally got around to giving this generator a more thorough test.
With most of the interior lights turned on, the heat ( is gas so distro only), the fridge running, and the dryer (single phase) it's running at around 30-35%.
With the oven (two 120 legs) it goes to 80%.
So my concern now is that 30-35% won't be steady; the fridge will shut off once its desired interior temperature is attained, and I don't run the dryer nonstop.
What is the minimum load I need to have to prevent wet stacking?
With most of the interior lights turned on, the heat ( is gas so distro only), the fridge running, and the dryer (single phase) it's running at around 30-35%.
With the oven (two 120 legs) it goes to 80%.
So my concern now is that 30-35% won't be steady; the fridge will shut off once its desired interior temperature is attained, and I don't run the dryer nonstop.
What is the minimum load I need to have to prevent wet stacking?
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Wetstacking is a thing but it doesn't happen in 5 minutes. It takes tens of hours of running with zero load to be a problem. As you bring on some load the time it takes to become a problem gets longer and longer.
If your water heater cycles a couple times a day wetstacking may NEVER be a problem.
Another thing to remember is that the load meter is calibrated for a power factor of 0.8. Your 80% indicated load is actually 100% load on the generator. The 30-35% is actually 40-45%.
I wouldn't obsess over it. You can always load it up with the dryer and oven for a bit if you think you've run it too lightly loaded. The machine will let you know if its OK. It is obvious when you see and smell the smoke from wetstacking.
If your water heater cycles a couple times a day wetstacking may NEVER be a problem.
Another thing to remember is that the load meter is calibrated for a power factor of 0.8. Your 80% indicated load is actually 100% load on the generator. The 30-35% is actually 40-45%.
I wouldn't obsess over it. You can always load it up with the dryer and oven for a bit if you think you've run it too lightly loaded. The machine will let you know if its OK. It is obvious when you see and smell the smoke from wetstacking.
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70% or better.
But don't worry. If you run longer then a week or two, then you can do a bunch of laundry, and make a cake, or something good to eat in the oven.
Diesel Addict beat me to it by 30 seconds. Its not that big of worry.
But don't worry. If you run longer then a week or two, then you can do a bunch of laundry, and make a cake, or something good to eat in the oven.
Diesel Addict beat me to it by 30 seconds. Its not that big of worry.
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I keep a couple of ceramic space heaters around for bumping up the house load, if need be...
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15 degrees and the power went out...
Two and a half hours so far on the generator. This thing rocks.
We're the only house in the hood with lights. Everything inside here is normal, and the gen is at about 55%.
Two and a half hours so far on the generator. This thing rocks.
We're the only house in the hood with lights. Everything inside here is normal, and the gen is at about 55%.
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A beautiful thing when all the time and money pays off.
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Keep that Puget Sound weather up there please! Weather forecast for South Willamette Valley Oregon said up to 1/2" to 1" of ice tonight/tomorrow. However, for now I think the cold front stalled out and we just have drizzle/rain so far.
Regardless, gensets are ready for action if grid wires start dropping
due to ice storm.
Regardless, gensets are ready for action if grid wires start dropping
due to ice storm.
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Five and a half hours of run time added to the meter. Best investment ever!
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Well dang the Weatherman was right...your weather snuck in under cover of night down south to us. Woke up to freezing rain & bit of snow. So far ~2" snow on top of light ice mix. Truck doors were frozen shut, tight as a bank vault... some warm water on the driver's side door/window/lock freed it enough to get it open, running & thawing just in case I were to need it. Though not going to tempt fate by going out on our icy roads today.
So far, only one power dropout for a few seconds with power remaining steady for now...
Although, current weather forecast indicates icing predicted for next 12 hrs. Gensets remain on standby!
Current forecast appears to indicate the low-pressure system & cold weather is heading on Eastward towards Central US States
So far, only one power dropout for a few seconds with power remaining steady for now...
Although, current weather forecast indicates icing predicted for next 12 hrs. Gensets remain on standby!Current forecast appears to indicate the low-pressure system & cold weather is heading on Eastward towards Central US States
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Trying to keep an eye on things here. We are on that line in NC where it could be something OR it could be nothing. I'm staying prepared for either eventuality.
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Just saw a news update that in Portland, OR "Portland General Electric" reports 110,000 customers w/o power! Sounds like they got walloped by the ice storm.
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Well ...we just joined @Mainsail 's "Pacific Northwest on Generator Power" club.
Unfortunately, we lost power ~9:30 pm Saturday night. Widespread outage due to the PNW ice & snow storm affecting multiple power company's customers.
Fortunately, my very cold MEP-002a genset sitting stone cold in 19F weather fired right up. If power is not restored by tomorrow morning, I will be firing up barn/shop "Genset #3" to take care of horses & keep the shop well & pipes happy.
Unfortunately, we lost power ~9:30 pm Saturday night. Widespread outage due to the PNW ice & snow storm affecting multiple power company's customers.
Fortunately, my very cold MEP-002a genset sitting stone cold in 19F weather fired right up.
If power is not restored by tomorrow morning, I will be firing up barn/shop "Genset #3" to take care of horses & keep the shop well & pipes happy.
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Hang in there guys!!
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Sounds like they are, in style
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About an hour before the power went out there was an alert message that said the ice storm & anticipated power outages coupled with the very low temps could be life threatening!Sounds like they are, in style
After Utility Power failed, I was much more relaxed once on MEP power! Having to go out last night & roll up the ice laden side curtains on Gen #2 was a task! Getting the ice beat off & rolling up the side curtains & then having to affix the holdup straps was challenging in 19F weather! Having falling sleet/snow & needing to take gloves off to fasten straps to their hold-up retainers in thick ice encrusted D- rings was a bit difficult. Got er done & once GEN #2 fired up & power was flowing to Generator breaker interlock panel in garage the rest was easy in comfort of garage.
Rest of neighborhood was eerily dark with no sound other than a few branches breaking now & then in the distant background. Kicked back in the house with fireplace going, a hot chocolate spiked with a shot of Rum & scanned the news channels.
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The super cold weather will be here tomorrow night and for the next few days we will have few hours above freezing. That is uncommon this far south. Just in case the heatpump struggles or gets frozen up, I broke out one of the H140s to have on standby. These things also come in handy if you need to thaw out a well head or the pipes under a neighbors house.
The trailer is my latest score from GP. I'm going to use it as an elevated work platform for generators. Will take some angle iron and make a "nest" for the load bank to fit into. But for the next few days it will be a portable emergency heating setup.
The trailer is my latest score from GP. I'm going to use it as an elevated work platform for generators. Will take some angle iron and make a "nest" for the load bank to fit into. But for the next few days it will be a portable emergency heating setup.
About an hour before the power went out there was an alert message that said the ice storm & anticipated power outages coupled with the very low temps could be life threatening!
After Utility Power failed, I was much more relaxed once on MEP power! Having to go out last night & roll up the ice laden side curtains on Gen #2 was a task! Getting the ice beat off & rolling up the side curtains & then having to affix the holdup straps was challenging in 19F weather! Having falling sleet/snow & needing to take gloves off to fasten straps to their hold-up retainers in thick ice encrusted D- rings was a bit difficult. Got er done & once GEN #2 fired up & power was flowing to Generator breaker interlock panel in garage the rest was easy in comfort of garage.
Rest of neighborhood was eerily dark with no sound other than a few branches breaking now & then in the distant background. Kicked back in the house with fireplace going, a hot chocolate spiked with a shot of Rum & scanned the news channels.
Sounds like you guys got hit harder then we did around salem, didnt have to break out the 803, but I had it sitting in the shop ready to go.