Military low boy trailers 15-20k

[rchalmers3]

3 questions:

What is the NSN of the M172A1?

What other Mil trailers could be used to haul a deuce?

Any advise on if the Mil trailers have any advantage over civvy trailers, when it comes to hauling a 13k deuce? (cost, performance, cool factor)

Thanks to all,

Rick

 

[NDT]

See pic for NSN. Other trailers: M269, M270, M871, M872, others? The mil trailers have only cost advantage over a civi trailer.

 

[Old Lincoln County Iron]

Here's a couple picks of a trailer I just picked up to haul my deuce on behind my M915A1.
Its a 1951 LaCrosse Trailer built for the Navy Dept. 32.25' long with a 39" lower deck
height.

 

[Jones]

Found out the hard way that some of the military trailers are too wide to operate on a civilian trip permit.
You can narrow a HET by taking off the outside duals but the M1000 trailers for instance are just too wide overall.

 

[tamangel]

is there a single axle low boy mil trailer?

Mike

 

[Old Lincoln County Iron]

is there a single axle low boy mil trailer?

Mike

There's a 1942 Steel Products Co. 16 ton Lowbed Trailer that looks to be a single axle in the classifieds. Its the only one that I am aware of.

 

[Alredneck]

Mil trailers are not always as reasonable as civy trailers. M871 and M872 are almost 4ft off the ground so would require more work preping a deuce to transport ( fold the windshield, remove exhaust, tarps and bows etc ) without being over height.

My 2009 40ft Gooseneck low profile is 2 1/2ft off the ground and can carry 11+tons. It cost $6900.00 brand new last year with dovetail and triple ramps. Has hauled almost 2 million pounds of mil equipment and boats. My M871 cost $1100 bucks but is a pain to load without a loading dock and only has 30+ feet of deck space but can carry 22tons. My next trailer will most likely be a 48ft expandable to 72ft low profile with HYDs and sitting on 17.5s in the 35ton range!

 

[Alredneck]

heres some pics!

1st pic: Naty hauling 2ea M101s on our M871 on the lowpro!

2nd pic: A fire truck I hauled from CO back to TN for some Volunteers!

3rd pic: Dastly Dodge doing the dang thang!

4th pic: Easy load for the Dastly Dodge!

 

[Jones]

Most heavy duty trailers carry lots of weight by spreading the load over many, many tires. Not sure how much weight a trailer with singles would be good for.

 

[Alredneck]

Most heavy duty trailers carry lots of weight by spreading the load over many, many tires. Not sure how much weight a trailer with singles would be good for.

? Whos/which trailer is running singles?

Also I would add, M871 is roughly 15,000lbs empty, my 40ft low pro 8,000lbs empty! Save a bunch of fuel by saving weight. Mil trailers are definantly heavy duty but heavy as all get out. The cost for newer civilian aluminum trailers pay for itself in the long run. If you are going to use it everyday go with a civilian model, if its something on the weekends or every once in a while, buy surplus!

You can find used aluminum stepdecks in 48-53ft for $4500 up!

Lowboys, RGNs, lowpros, all can get pretty pricey with the different lengths options and weight ratings.

 

[rchalmers3]

Found out the hard way that some of the military trailers are too wide to operate on a civilian trip permit.
You can narrow a HET by taking off the outside duals but the M1000 trailers for instance are just too wide overall.

What is the width max? 96"?

And forgive my ignorance but what is a trip permit? Is that a way to operate heavy equipment without a CDL?

Rick

 

[Nonotagain]

What is the width max? 96"?

And forgive my ignorance but what is a trip permit? Is that a way to operate heavy equipment without a CDL?

Rick

Max width should be 102 inches without a permit.

If you are going to haul construction equipment offroad and locally, the mil trailer makes sence.

If hauling over improved roads i.e. highways, a goose neck or fifth wheel commcerical trailer is the way to go.

 

[73m819]

I would guess the IDEAL trailer would be a m870, moded with hydraulics for the folding , or the civi version by miller

 

[Jones]

Rick,

Out here CalTrans issues trip permits for overweight or oversize loads. They even specify the route you're to take so that you don't wipe out an overpass or crush a bridge enroute.
A CDL is still required.

 

[L999here]

...easier than that...

HAD to get an M172A1 to haul my FV432 APC (avatar),as it is 30K and almost 9" wide. The M172A1 is 115" (9'7") and does require a 'wide-load' permit. The permits are available on a one-time basis or a yearly fee. In Indiana,I can drive a semi with my M172A1 without a CDL. Both vehicles are titled,plated and registered as 'FARM' vehicles and no CDL is required...just have to stay within 150 mi. of South Bend,IN. There are legal,easy ways to do things...you just have to ask and research all the options. Most states have similar rules/laws. Also...the 1943 White halftrack and the Ferret are easier to load-up and haul with a wide trailer...and much safer to unload. Besides....how many civilian trailers are available that will haul 25-tons and cost less than $3K...? Thank you,GL...!!! Remember...the military vehicles are made to heavier specs and will do their job much better and safer than a comparable civilian vehicle....period.

 

[Alredneck]

102in ( 8ft ) is max width without permits

Military trailers do have a advantage offroad! More clearance, strong frames.

Cali make it hard on out of state drivers and imagine in state drivers have a lot to deal with as well!
Over regulated GOVT! Cali is what the US will look like in a few more years if we dont put a stop to it!

 

[rchalmers3]

Hey guys, where can I look up trailer dimensions on the various mil trailers? I checked the NSN info on various trailers but have not seen the dimensions.

All I have is the GL shipping info and for some reason I don't trust those numbers

Right now I am seeking info on the mx1048 length and width. It's not a 5th wheel trailer, but what the hey...

Rick

 

[tamangel]

a quick search found only this reference:

TM 9-2330-396-14&P Operator field and sustainment maintenance manual including repair parts and special tools list for trailer flatbed medium 6-ton 8-wheel M1048A1 NSN 2330-01-406-2090 EIC ICC TM9-2330-396-14&P

maybe it will say in the manual somewhere if you can locate it..

Mike

 

[73m819]

just google the m number , for example M870 trailer

 

[tamangel]

perhaps you could list some links you found by doing that...

here's what I found: mx1048 - Google Search

Mike