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Does anyone know where I can buy some full ether start canister? I cannot locate any.
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Need some ether start canisters.
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I couldn't find any in California, anywhere.
But I found some in a Chevron in Nevada at a Full Service station.
But I found some in a Chevron in Nevada at a Full Service station.
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Napa has them in the supply chain... I would think that a Napa counter guy in California could look them up and either order one or tell you that they're not for sale there (which wouldn't surprise me terribly).
All the big truck shops around here have them on a next day basis too. Not ever in stock, but no freight either, they come in from someplace close on regular orders. That may be reigonal however as we're just barely cold enough that diesels around here that came with ether start will probably need it.
All the big truck shops around here have them on a next day basis too. Not ever in stock, but no freight either, they come in from someplace close on regular orders. That may be reigonal however as we're just barely cold enough that diesels around here that came with ether start will probably need it.
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Checked with NAPA and alot of the truck stops and no luck. They told me nobody uses them anymore.
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Can you refill them? Sorry for the newb question, I have yet to read my TM manual
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John Tennis aka JATONKA sold me mine, sens him a pm.
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Why even deal with them? Buy a can of starting fluid for a few bucks at NAPA and never even bother with your ether start. I have not met too many guys who like their trucks more exact than me, but the ether start is one thing I NEVER mess with. The cannisters are more expensive than a can of starting fluid. When it gets really cold, I give my trucks a sniff of starting fluid. Works every time...and for a fraction of the price.
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The canister setup on mine is identicle to ones on some of our tractors. Try tractor (farm tractor) supply stores. Remember I am in Wisconsin though, so these are very common around here. I will check and see if the place I order them from has website when I get a chance.
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https://www.koldban.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=17
Here is one source.
Here is one source.
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Almost all of our larger tractors have ether start systems and you can pick up refills at any John Deere, New Holland or Kubota dealership. They are the same canisters used on the deuce.
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CONTRACT SAVES MONEY AND THE ENVIRONMENT
A new long-term, tailored contract to supply the military and Federal agencies with ethyl ether not only will save money but also will protect the environment. The "win-win" contract is a customer support initiative between the Defense Supply Center Columbus (DSCC), Ohio, and Quick Start Products of Rochelle, Illinois.
Ethyl ether is used to quick-start diesel-powered vehicles in cold weather. Containers of ethyl ether (national stock number 2910-00-646-9727) are used by the military and Federal agencies to quick-start everything from diesel-powered tanks and combat vehicles to trucks and bulldozers. In the past, an 18-ounce canister of ethyl ether could cost as much as $8.11 (depending on locality). Since ethyl ether is a flammable and hazardous material, disposal costs ranged anywhere from $106 to $242 for each empty canister.
Under the new contract, the cost of an 18-ounce canister of ethyl ether is reduced to as low as $6.25. Instead of merely providing the product, the contractor now is required to dispose of empty canisters in accordance with applicable regulations. The only cost incurred by the customer is in shipping the empty cylinders back to the supplier. Cost savings are estimated to be $1.28 million annually.
"We decided it was up to DSCC to alleviate our customer of this excess cost as a customer support initiative," said John J. Jones, of the Hazardous Material Minimization Program of the Standardization Management Team in DSCC's Operations Support Group. "So we formed a team with members from the Land-Based Weapon Systems Group, Procurement; and the Defense Logistics Agency Office of Counsel, Columbus Region, to work the problem."
The result of the team effort was a long-term contract written with a tailored support agreement, the first of its kind at DSCC. "This was all due to DSCC's partnering efforts with the military customer and the manufacturer," added Jones.
A new long-term, tailored contract to supply the military and Federal agencies with ethyl ether not only will save money but also will protect the environment. The "win-win" contract is a customer support initiative between the Defense Supply Center Columbus (DSCC), Ohio, and Quick Start Products of Rochelle, Illinois.
Ethyl ether is used to quick-start diesel-powered vehicles in cold weather. Containers of ethyl ether (national stock number 2910-00-646-9727) are used by the military and Federal agencies to quick-start everything from diesel-powered tanks and combat vehicles to trucks and bulldozers. In the past, an 18-ounce canister of ethyl ether could cost as much as $8.11 (depending on locality). Since ethyl ether is a flammable and hazardous material, disposal costs ranged anywhere from $106 to $242 for each empty canister.
Under the new contract, the cost of an 18-ounce canister of ethyl ether is reduced to as low as $6.25. Instead of merely providing the product, the contractor now is required to dispose of empty canisters in accordance with applicable regulations. The only cost incurred by the customer is in shipping the empty cylinders back to the supplier. Cost savings are estimated to be $1.28 million annually.
"We decided it was up to DSCC to alleviate our customer of this excess cost as a customer support initiative," said John J. Jones, of the Hazardous Material Minimization Program of the Standardization Management Team in DSCC's Operations Support Group. "So we formed a team with members from the Land-Based Weapon Systems Group, Procurement; and the Defense Logistics Agency Office of Counsel, Columbus Region, to work the problem."
The result of the team effort was a long-term contract written with a tailored support agreement, the first of its kind at DSCC. "This was all due to DSCC's partnering efforts with the military customer and the manufacturer," added Jones.
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It wouldn't suprise me if they were illegal in CA. Seems alot of stuff I see (mostly cemicals and such) says on it "not legal for sale in CA". It also seems just about everything causes cancer or reproductive harm in CA.
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Quick Start - Ether Solutions for Diesel Engines | Products
Link to the one in article.
Link to the one in article.
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My Deuce has this system.
it leaked! into the air box! could have been real bad.
i dont know the reliability of these but i will not take the chance again.
I agree with Bruce.
do it the manual way for better results.
it leaked! into the air box! could have been real bad.
i dont know the reliability of these but i will not take the chance again.
I agree with Bruce.
do it the manual way for better results.
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It not that, it is because they found them being used by "METH" cooks as part of the chemical reduction.
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No wonder our economy is bad. This has to be the most ridiculous thing I have seen in a while.
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I believe m38inmaine has some .
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Actually you do not get better results manually. The system installed on the cold weather trucks is made to protect you from "over doing" the ether. Too much ether can destroy engines if you use too much.
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Also, with the canisters, you can give it a 'hit' while cranking the motor. Anyone have a few to sell? Paypal?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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the measured amount that is injected with the system is supposed to be small enough as to not damage the engine.
my concern is that mine leaked into the air intake while the truck was sitting and would have done a great amount of damage if started.
it has me gun shy now and i unhooked the bottle.
my concern is that mine leaked into the air intake while the truck was sitting and would have done a great amount of damage if started.
it has me gun shy now and i unhooked the bottle.