New Michigan License Plate Law for MV's Passes

[al2ndWolfhounds]

So who lets the police departments know about this law. I was just told my cucv is not a military truck and the paper with the reg on it was not real..... ticket. ....

If you read paragraph six it includes: "A registration plate issued for a historic military vehicle that is operated on the roads of this state is not required to be attached to the rear or the front of the historic military vehicle unless the historic military vehicle was originally manufactured with lighting and mounting provisions for a registration plate." My M1031 is so equipped so I must have the plate on it, however my M101a2 trailer is not so equipped therefore I just need to have the plate with me when towing it.

Is your vehicle that got ticketed originally manufactured with lightning and mounting provisions? If not fight the ticket, if equipped get the plate mounted. If I'm not mistaken you tow pintle is located where the plate would normally be mounted.

 

[porkysplace]

If you read paragraph six it includes: "A registration plate issued for a historic military vehicle that is operated on the roads of this state is not required to be attached to the rear or the front of the historic military vehicle unless the historic military vehicle was originally manufactured with lighting and mounting provisions for a registration plate." My M1031 is so equipped so I must have the plate on it, however my M101a2 trailer is not so equipped therefore I just need to have the plate with me when towing it.

Is your vehicle that got ticketed originally manufactured with lightning and mounting provisions? If not fight the ticket, if equipped get the plate mounted. If I'm not mistaken you tow pintle is located where the plate would normally be mounted.

M1009's have no provision for a plate the pintal hitch is mounted where the civy blazers plate mounts.

 

[digitaldust]

Flint . The desk officer. Nice. Wanted to kick it out asap. The law said i must goto the prosecutors office. I have a 7 day wait till its in the system.

2nd note the reg. No no way. Will that be talked about . There stuck on point 1. The ticked. And will not even talk about the idea of a updated reg. ----- i will see if i might get in with the chief. Who knows. Leo doesnot represent the remainder of the Flint police force. I have known a lot of them and there rather nice

 

[319]

Flint . The desk officer. Nice. Wanted to kick it out asap. The law said i must goto the prosecutors office. I have a 7 day wait till its in the system.

2nd note the reg. No no way. Will that be talked about . There stuck on point 1. The ticked. And will not even talk about the idea of a updated reg. ----- i will see if i might get in with the chief. Who knows. Leo doesnot represent the remainder of the Flint police force. I have known a lot of them and there rather nice

This is difficult to read and understand. You need to work on your spelling, grammar, and punctuation skills.
And yes, you need to contact the prosecutor's office in the ticketing jurisdiction. It should not take seven days to get in the system.

 

[digitaldust]

I was in on the go. Walking and texting on a small note3 haha.

 

[Bob H]

Eventually the LEO's throughout the state will learn this law.
I have used the contact form on the City of Flint's PD site to send the following.

Good day,
It has been brought to my attention that your patrol officers may not be aware of; http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-257-225 , as amended March 4, 2014

Thank you for your time,
Bob Hansen
President
Michigan Military Vehicle Preservation Association

Anyone that does not have their plate mounted should have the above link printed out and kept with their original vehicle registration to show to a LEO

 

[digitaldust]

Thank you bob.

 

[tobyS]

Michigan Vehicle Code
Act 300 of 1949
257.225 Registration plate; attachment to vehicle; legibility; color; distinctive registration plates; name plate, insignia, or advertising device; limitation; historic military vehicle; violation as civil infraction.

(6) A registration plate issued for a historic military vehicle that is authorized to be operated on the roads of this state is not required to be attached to the rear or the front of the historic military vehicle unless the historic military vehicle was originally manufactured with lighting and mounting provisions for a registration plate. However, if the registration plate is not attached to the exterior of the historic military vehicle, it shall be present in the historic military vehicle to which it refers and shall be made available upon demand of a police officer. As used in this subsection, "historic military vehicle" means a vehicle, including a trailer, regardless of the vehicle's size, weight, or year of manufacture, that was manufactured for use in any country's military forces and is maintained to represent its military design and markings accurately.

-----------------

I wonder if Indiana (or other states) have something similar, re display/attachment?

 

[digitaldust]

What should i expect if i drive from flint to erie pa. With my cucv and the plate reg. Eg. No lighting or display

 

[saddamsnightmare]

July 6th, 2015.

digitaldust:


Just carry a copy of the Michigan Registration Law with you in the glovebox or bag (that you carry the registration slip and insurance slips in).

If you are stopped out of state, just show the State Trooper or LEO the regulation in question. States have an agreement (reciprocity) on such matters where they must honor the laws relative to vehicle operation and requirements as they exist in your home state. California may be the exception, but when I had the "Saddamsnightmare" M35A2, in my icon, I travelled in other states and was never bothered for a license plate.


98% of the time they will just wave as you go by, now and then, on the larger trucks they will want to scale it to see that the GVW conforms to the registration limit.



Good luck on your trip.

 

[bigflew]

last weekend my wife an I participated in escorting the traveling wall along with the MIMVPA and 400 motorcycles.(wich was pretty **** cool) the following Monday on my way to work I passed the same Michigan state trooper I see in the same spot twice a week. sometimes I have my plate on and sometimes not. This time I could see he was waiting faceing out car running foot on brake. he pulled out behind me lit me up. then when he got to my cucv he instantly turned into Gunnery sgt Hartman from Full metal jacket. He did the full drill sgt routine even calling me sergeant. but he Knew there was NO SUCH LAW. He would not even let me show him a copy of the NO SUCH LAW . finally after he yelled for no less than 10 minutes I told him to just write the ticket so I could get to work.
The next day 8:30 am I am at the courthouse. next I am at state police post talking to the post commander with a copy of the law that DOSE NOT EXIST he all but called me a liar then went to hic computer and printed out a copy exectly like mine of the law that DOSE NOT EXIST. then demanded to see pictures of the cucv witch I showed him. not good enough. I did not have a picture of the place where the plate can not mount(pintel hitch). The next day the trooper was parked in his spot so I HAD to roll up and make sure he got word the law DOSE EXIST. This time he was almost nice. but he said the paint job was not a known DOD camo pattern.(keep in mind the cucv is the one in my avatar) to wich I had to inform him it was in 1982 and to google DUAL TEX
Tomorrow I think I will bring him a Jelly Doughnut...

 

[saddamsnightmare]

August 12th, 2015.


bigflew:


You just ran into a pair of troopers on doughnut withdrawal, but take the copy of the law to the prosecutor and judge and let them deflate the State Troopers over their ignorance of the law. Judges rarely find such issues worthy of their time and generally "tear out" the offending officer(s).

I will say that the digital camo was likely very uncommon on the vehicles, as until your truck, I never ran into anything like that. More interesting I find that the military is phasing out the digital pattern on the BDU's, so I suspect that little boxes just don't work well in nature...But, I have been known to be wrong. However, my trucks were almost always either solid green (for woodland use), or Desert Tan (for Iraqi/Kuwaiti Desert use in Desert Storm Operations. It does seem logical that the pattern areas do need to be larger on larger vehicles (according to the older vehicle camouflage paint TM's....

 

[digitaldust]

Well it happened again. Michigan State Troopers stopped me again today. It was a very nice interaction with the gentleman doing a fantastic job in Michigan. However I was instructed that my vehicle because it is historic can only be driven for a historic type of event per plate guidelines.

Has anybody else been having problems being told they cannot drive the truck on a regular basis?

Might we need a wording change in the law?

I have to say the stop started out as if i were a militia suspect. Then shroty everything cleared up nicely. And the stop became pleasant. The was a stop done by post 35. And id have to say there all very professional

 

[bigflew]

Well it happened again. Michigan State Troopers stopped me again today. It was a very nice interaction with the gentleman doing a fantastic job in Michigan. However I was instructed that my vehicle because it is historic can only be driven for a historic type of event per plate guidelines.

Has anybody else been having problems being told they cannot drive the truck on a regular basis?

Might we need a wording change in the law?

I have to say the stop started out as if i were a militia suspect. Then shroty everything cleared up nicely. And the stop became pleasant. The was a stop done by post 35. And id have to say there all very professional

If you have an historic plate I believe he may be correct. but with either a historic or regular plate it does not need to be displayed on military trucks only present in truck.

 

[digitaldust]

Yeah I was told the conflict arises because the law states that they are historical therefore the Secretary of State recommended a registration of historic I feel like we could use a slight tweak and some wording on the law regarding the plate it's not as if I'm up to making shenanigans just would like to be proper

 

[MyothersanM1]

How about a "maintenance" clause, if one doesn't already exist?

 

[digitaldust]

Sure or just an explanation the this type of mv will be driven more often as everything goes wrong when sitting

 

[digitaldust]

I was told i will be towed if i am seen again

 

[digitaldust]

Bad day for leo sometimes comes with a unkind stop with a strange new law. I dont blame leo. Just leo. Read that book you enforce.

 

[tobyS]

First, put a regular tag on and second, invent a magnetic plate holder with a solar light (about $3) and make a fortune selling them to SS members.