Picture of your Battery Box?

[Mullaney]

So, in broad daylight the batteries were just stolen out of my M1088 sitting in the parking lot with 3 cameras pointing in its general direction. I figure saying what I really think about people that do that would violate every rule there is here - so I will refrain.

TO MAKE IT EASY: Does anybody have a picture of their battery box on a Stewart with the batteries in place? It sure would speed up the process of replacing them. Please?


Tim

 

[simp5782]

Frame side is 24v. Harness with positive and negative posts. Is 12v that hooks the batteries together. and the 2 negative are outside grounds

 

[Awesomeness]

There should be a diagram inside the lid, if they left it.

 

[Mullaney]

There should be a diagram inside the lid, if they left it.
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I was too busy saying bad words to look inside the battery cover. I am happy it was laying there... Will go give it a look.

THANKS for the picture!

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[Mullaney]

Frame side is 24v. Harness with positive and negative posts. Is 12v that hooks the batteries together. and the 2 negative are outside grounds

Thanks Wes!

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[JD4044M]

Looks like you got what you need. Boy guess it is time to put a lock on the cover! You might get to turn that into your insurance?

 

[Mullaney]

Looks like you got what you need. Boy guess it is time to put a lock on the cover! You might get to turn that into your insurance?

I suppose I could but all of them tend to keep a record of spending money on claims... And that means only one thing. Never use your insurance and it goes up slowly. USE your insurance and pay extra for exercising that privilege for the next 5 years. At least that is how it works in North Carolina. License points are 4 years. Insurance points are 5 years.

I am sure that insurance would cover it but chances are that paying for it out of pocket will cost me less in the long run.

The officer who took the report was pleased to get pictures and video. Apparently just in their sector of town today 12 batteries taken from the school bus lot (about two miles away) and 4 batteries were liberated from other vehicles since 0800 this morning.

IT AMAZES me how "a hoodie doesn't make a criminal" works around here. He cinched that thing down tight. Nothing but teeth and eyeballs showing...

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[Mullaney]

They aren't 27 series batteries... I have some of those here. Apparently they are a 24 series battery?

This is amazingly more difficult than when you have the old battery in hand and just want "to get one like this".

 

[JD4044M]

Time for a cop to visit the local scrap yard and ask who is brining in battery's! A while back I broke out the window and screwed up 2 doors on a Toyota beater truck. Gave the guy $800.00 to settle up. Guess he was selling it for $1,200.00 and is now going to make more money. I was not turning that in since I got the insurance a few days before. I have a clean driving record from the last 25+ years. I was in a parking lot so not a moving violation but still my fault.

 

[Mullaney]

Time for a cop to visit the local scrap yard and ask who is brining in battery's!

Agreed. Price of lead must be up... There are three scrapyards within about a one mile radius. When they start taking them out of city (county) vehicles it draws more attention than an individual. That could help get them caught.

NONE of this is ever going to stop until the penalty for being a thief, murderer or other criminal - insert crime here - have a real fear of the law or Legal System

I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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[chucky]

So, in broad daylight the batteries were just stolen out of my M1088 sitting in the parking lot with 3 cameras pointing in its general direction. I figure saying what I really think about people that do that would violate every rule there is here - so I will refrain.

TO MAKE IT EASY: Does anybody have a picture of their battery box on a Stewart with the batteries in place? It sure would speed up the process of replacing them. Please?


Tim

you should have the pics in your phone txts just sent em

 

[Mario]

Ask and you shall receive.
I replaced them with just 2 24F batteries from WalMart. Let me know if you want final installation of those as well.

 

[Mullaney]

Ask and you shall receive.
I replaced them with just 2 24F batteries from WalMart. Let me know if you want final installation of those as well. View attachment 818184View attachment 818185View attachment 818186View attachment 818187View attachment 818188

Thanks Mario ! Any chance you have a picture of how you set that up? And maybe commentary on how well those 24F's fit into the battery box pockets?

 

[Mario]

Thanks Mario ! Any chance you have a picture of how you set that up? And maybe commentary on how well those 24F's fit into the battery box pockets?

The 24F fit like a glove -- like a glove I said.
I'm going to have to put a piece of wood or plastic or something to prevent them from sliding towards the outside when offroading, but in town, there is no way they'll move on their own.

I haven't taken a final picture of everything wired, but I'll walk you thru it, it's super simple with just 2 batteries.

 

[Mario]

Basically, the 2 shortest cables from the left back is your 24V. So the Nato slave connecting cable (red tab) ties to that as well.

 

[Mario]

then you have the longest cable, that's your ground. You also have the other Nato slave cable that attaches to the most right terminal on the 2nd battery.

 

[Mario]

That will leave you with one final cable coming from outside the battery box, and that's your 12V.
Use one of the short cables to interconnect the two batteries and tie that 12V cable to either battery.
Sorry, no picture of this 'jumper' cable section.

With just 2 batteries the wiring is super simple to understand:

24V+ + ____- Jumper between 2 batteries and 12V cable from outside +____- Ground


I'll take some pictures when I get home tonight -- if I can remember.

 

[Mario]

NOTE!!! some batteries are configured with the ground on the left terminal whereas others are on the right!

I picked 24F because the size is right and the terminals line up.
You do NOT have any room to stretch the 24V cable coming from outside without modifying things.

Notice 124R is on the correct side, just like 24F, but Groups 27 and 34 are on the opposite.

It's not to say you can't modify them (and I really wanted to pick up Group 34 because of the higher CCA and reserve, but in the end ended up with the 24F and so far (only 3 weeks), so good.

 

[Mullaney]

So, I have 4 new batteries for my LMTV (M108 . EverStart 124R's

MY WORRY is that I have what appears to be two Grounds (the meter confirms continuity to ground on both) and two Hot wires.

What I don't want to do is put 24v onto the 12v circuit. I can only assume that ground is ground and that seems logical.

I have what I believe to be a 24v hot on the "back wall" of the battery box.

I have what I believe to be a 12v hot out near the front of the battery box.

Is there a way to figure out which is which - without following each wire? And please - where should they go?

 

[Mullaney]

So... As I stood there grumbling I figured out that I can rotate the batteries 90 degrees and they fit tightly into the plastic tray. Better than before.

Just still concerned about doing something Stooopid and burning up the 12v circuit by applying 24v to it.

New picture is below



Based on earlier advise, I believe the 24 should be in the back of the box.
12 should be in the front of the box. MY PROBLEM is that when I look at the diagram under the top of the battery box - my truck wiring just doesn't seem to "reach" where it shows it should be.

I used a continuity meter and confirmed the two ground wires.

The two positive wires... One of those is short and (in theory) needs to connect to the battery in the back left corner. And also in theory that should be 24v. + then - to + then to - for ground.

Seems that maybe the 12v battery is actually two in parallel?

So far, so good. Now figuring out how to tie the 24 to the 12 just isn't something I have ever done.