Pioneer rack mounting spot

[kendelrio]

All-
I found this for sale and will be picking it up this week:




My question:

Where on a 5 ton would it be mounted? If not on a 5 ton itself, what about on a M105A2?

Thanks!

 

[kendelrio]

Or does it even go to a 5 ton???

 

[zebedee]

I think that one is for a HUMMER, 5 ton pioneer racks have a perimeter angle iron type frame that go back to WWII.

 

[BKubu]

You don't always see pioneer tool racks on M923s/M925s, although I don't know why. I have seen them before, but it seems like they are absent (never installed) more frequently than they are present. With that said, when I have seen them, they are mounted to the top of the toolbox on the passenger side. I believe they overhang the toolbox by a couple of inches in the front. I've also seen jerry can holders mounted there, as well.

 

[Guyfang]

Look in the TM. If there is a place to install it, the TM's will show you, and how.

 

[juanprado]

the hmmwv tools are the same and you can use those on the 5 ton rack pictured earlier. It is the same as the deuce and many others.

The hmmwv have a bracket underneath the rear differential and clips to the frame so not likely to adapt easily.

Many on here have also mounted the rectangular frame on the sides of m101 & 105 trailers.

 

[kendelrio]

Thanks all. I've checked the TMs and they suggest the tools as BII to be stowed in the tool box on the side.

I guess, as I've done many times already, I'm going to have to figure out a suitable place for it. I don't think the top of the tool box will work as I have my Jerry can there (and it's already been put to good use!) and I don't want to move it.

I'll figure something out and yall KNOW It'll be posted...

 

[juanprado]

The pioneer tool rack fits on the tool box with the Jerry can holder. It sits longways along the tool box behind the Jerry Can holder. Both can co exist together.

I have a custom non stock wheel chock bracket next to the jerry can bracket infront of the pioneer rack.

Will try to post a picture tomorrow or maybe there is a pic on my thread Juan's M923 "Major Zippidy"

"Major Zippidy" M923 build

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[kendelrio]

The pioneer tool rack fits on the tool box with the Jerry can holder. It sits longways along the tool box behind the Jerry Can holder. Both can co exist together.

I have a custom non stock wheel chock bracket next to the jerry can bracket infront of the pioneer rack.

Will try to post a picture tomorrow or maybe there is a pic on my thread Juan's M923 "Major Zippidy"

"Major Zippidy" M923 build

I would like to thank Chris for this wonderful forum and the information that is readily available here. Hats off to the tech gurus and mods for making it happen also. Many members here have been very helpful to me and I appreciate all the support and info and the warm cooperative atmosphere on...

www.steelsoldiers.com

You had a pic of your wheel chocks showing the rack, but without a lot of clarity on the mounting. Some pics would be GREATLY appreciated!

 

[kendelrio]

So... update...

When I bought my truck and in going through it while prepping for paint, I found this.... "thing":



It was mounted above my toolbox on the passenger side and I had (have) no idea what it was originally designed for....

ANYWAY... I was looking at the pioneer rack I got and was trying to figure out how to mount it when I got the idea to see if the rod fit the tube on the rack.... lo and behold...



So... now I have to figure out how to fix the bottom permanently to ensure it doesn't get beat to hell and back. I'm thinking some sort of U-bolts(?)

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Guyfang]

Whats the TM number for the truck, so I do not have to look it up?

 

[kendelrio]

Whats the TM number for the truck, so I do not have to look it up?

TM 9-2320-272-10

 

[Guyfang]

The TM 9-2320-272-24P-2 shows a different P-Tool rack. Having said that, I am not sure if the TM I looked at is updated, with a newer P-Tool rack and securing system. But what you got seems to work. So you maybe should figure a way to secure it, in the up position. Lockable. I am going to snoop some more in the TM's. Maybe I missed something. I might use two small rubber baby bumpers to keep the tools and rack from hitting the bed, and keep them from vibrating too much. Then some kinda hasp. That way you just open the lock, open the hasp and drop the front side of the P-Tool rack down.

 

[Guyfang]

Ha! Got it!!

Where you mounted the P-Tool rack, is supposed to be (Figure 537) the Adjustable Safety Strap and Bow Stowage Strap position. Go to TM 9-2320-272-24P-2, Figure 537, (PDF reader page # 472) to look at what it is, AND should be/look like. There is a few parts missing.

 

[kendelrio]

The TM 9-2320-272-24P-2 shows a different P-Tool rack. Having said that, I am not sure if the TM I looked at is updated, with a newer P-Tool rack and securing system. But what you got seems to work. So you maybe should figure a way to secure it, in the up position. Lockable. I am going to snoop some more in the TM's. Maybe I missed something. I might use two small rubber baby bumpers to keep the tools and rack from hitting the bed, and keep them from vibrating too much. Then some kinda hasp. That way you just open the lock, open the hasp and drop the front side of the P-Tool rack down.

Yeah, I'm definitely going to figure out some sort of storage. The only issue is the rack only swings up a little bit and would hit the Jerry can. Rubber bumbers definitely sound like a good plan!

 

[kendelrio]

Ha! Got it!!

Where you mounted the P-Tool rack, is supposed to be (Figure 537) the Adjustable Safety Strap and Bow Stowage Strap position. Go to TM 9-2320-272-24P-2, Figure 537, (PDF reader page # 472) to look at what it is, AND should be/look like. There is a few parts missing.

Just looked, and all the parts are there. Thanks for the heads up!

 

[Guyfang]

Straps also?

 

[kendelrio]

Straps also?

 

[kendelrio]

Straps also?

OK, just checked the drivers side, no straps. Hmmm I wonder if our very own @Valence would know where/how to get some. They are NSN 5340009302717

 

[kendelrio]

So... probably going to change up and flat mount it to the tool box. Now that I know it fits.. I'm going to use the bow storage mount for what it's made for.