Power steering question...Saginaw gear and 395/85/20 tires

[Tophatperformance]

Wondering if I can use the Saginaw 710 gear on the outside of the frame rail running mrap wheels with 395/85/20s. Anyone got the setup? Do they rub? Please give some feedback.

 

[cummins7]

I'm running the same set up, it does rub but i plan on just adding to the steering stop. You lose a little turning radius but with the power steering it's easy enough to back up and turn again. I'd recommend going to a diff wheel if you havnt bought them yet but if you did I'd still run them.

 

[QUADJEEPER]

I had considerable interference with my steering arm and the 365 85 x 20's that I'm running. Had to extend the steering stop approx. 3/4". Does hurt right turning a good bit. Also trimmed the nut and arm end to help.

Sorry for the wrong orientation of the first pic. Loaded correctly, now can't change it.

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[QUADJEEPER]

sorry for the wrong orientation of the first pic. Loaded correctly, now can't change it.

(fixed it for you)

thanks!

 

[Tophatperformance]

Wow that's tight! What pitman arm are you using? Do you by chance know the part number? Also are you runnin 1/2 adapters? Wonder if getting a 3/4 thick one would do the trick? Thanks for the help.

 

[levingtz]

I am running M1076 rims with 395s. Would probably help with the clearance issues as they stick out from the fenders a bit. I can easily see the tread of the drivers tire while going down the road. I can measure distance between tire and frame if you want. I don't have hydro yet though, and it's an A3. Can upload a picture as well if you are interested.

 

[Tophatperformance]

Pictures and measurements would be great. Are you running 6?

 

[levingtz]

Yes I am. Can't get the closeup pictures to load from work so will try from home. Will measure as well.

 

[QUADJEEPER]

Wow that's tight! What pitman arm are you using? Do you by chance know the part number? Also are you runnin 1/2 adapters? Wonder if getting a 3/4 thick one would do the trick? Thanks for the help.

Not sure what pitman arm it is. Bought the kit from Waterloo Specialties. No wheel spacers.

 

[QUADJEEPER]

Yes I am. Can't get the closeup pictures to load from work so will try from home. Will measure as well.
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Love the snow!

 

[Tophatperformance]

By wheel spacers I mean adaptors used with the mrap wheels. I thought if I made those thicker by1/4 it would push the wheels out that much more. I know they would be heavy.

 

[QUADJEEPER]

By wheel spacers I mean adaptors used with the mrap wheels. I thought if I made those thicker by1/4 it would push the wheels out that much more. I know they would be heavy.

I'm using A3 wheels.

 

[levingtz]

With wheels centered, the closest contact point between the tire and the frame is right at 15.25". Below is a picture showing the width of the tires from the fender as well as one with the wheel at full right lock. Hopefully that helps. These rims will require the hub adapter plates so that pushes the wheels out quite a bit, probably an inch or so.



Hope that helps!

 

[peashooter]

You could go with different mrap wheels on the front such as the 20 bolt steel ones (Faithtire -member FTS0627 has inexpensive ones). Those MRAP wheels have less backspacing so they would stick out further than the rest of the MRAP wheels. Another option is PLS wheels (even less backspacing yet and they have the same mounting pattern as your MRAPS so you could reuse the adapters). Or you could get modified hemtt wheels that also would stick out further.
PLS wheels will give you the most inside clearance but may cause some rubbing due to the tire sticking out too far (others should know this, check with Patracy)

EDIT: the last picture with the welded in "center" is not a PLS wheel as its accidentally labeled, its a "recentered HEMTT" wheel.

 

[levingtz]

PLS are the ones on my truck above.

 

[Tophatperformance]

Awesome everyone. Thanks for all the info.

 

[cummins7]

I have 1/2" adapter plates and cut the center out of one of my stock wheels to use as a spacer and it still rubs. Another option might be turning the wheel around and have the tire stick way out, seen people do it on the rear to avoid flipping the hubs.....
these are the wheels I'm running