Price of a full frag 6 armor kit

[patracy]

May as well ask folks thoughts on the repatriation of American equipment.

What's the thoughts of it? It is what it is. And you'll need a form 6 approved by the ATF as well as import paperwork for importing armor into the US.

 

[Mullaney]

What's the thoughts of it? It is what it is. And you'll need a form 6 approved by the ATF as well as import paperwork for importing armor into the US.

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How would you make out the check to buy one?
Maybe to Taliban America, LLC


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[98G]

If you've got the budget for armor for a hmmwv, you've probably got the budget for a real APC/IFV wheeled and maybe tracked. Far superior...

JMHO

 

[chucky]

Hells Bells just go buy you some sheets of AR-500 and a plasma cutter and get to widiling it aint rocket science !

 

[patracy]

Hells Bells just go buy you some sheets of AR-500 and a plasma cutter and get to widiling it aint rocket science !

If armor were only as simple as that....

 

[chucky]

If armor were only as simple as that....

We had a fella work with us a few years back that worked in a place that armored custom vehicles and they coverd every square inch of the Mercedes and Bentleys interiors he had lots of pictures of the work he did like the bellys of the cars and suvs for being mine resistant but it was most time spent with lazar cutters cutting out each little piece to be welded . And on a flat humvee door should be easy to cut out and seem up if thats what you want and its no problem to get bullet resistant windows made to order

 

[patracy]

each little piece to be welded . And on a flat humvee door should be easy to cut out and seem up if thats what you want

That little bit right there exemplifies my statement. The problematic words are underlined too.

 

[chucky]

That little bit right there exemplifies my statement. The problematic words are underlined too.

Am i missing something in all this ? If the man wants to have bullet resistant doors on his humvee any average welder should be able to build doors or bolt on hard panels and heavy hinges .Hes in california not afganistan im pretty sure he probably will never get shot at in his truck unless hes into illeagle stuff ..

 

[98G]

Am i missing something in all this ? If the man wants to have bullet resistant doors on his humvee any average welder should be able to build doors or bolt on hard panels and heavy hinges .Hes in california not afganistan im pretty sure he probably will never get shot at in his truck unless hes into illeagle stuff ..

HAZ at the welds, and 7018 isn't AR500.

Granted, unlikely to be a real problem.

 

[patracy]

There's more to it than just slapping "AR500" on something and calling it armor. AR500 isn't "armor

HAZ at the welds, and 7018 isn't AR500.

Granted, unlikely to be a real problem.

Also the "flat" aspect of things.

 

[chucky]

There's more to it than just slapping "AR500" on something and calling it armor. AR500 isn't "armor


Also the "flat" aspect of things.

I understand that angles make metal thicker that shooting into flat plate but every armored humvee door that i have seen were flat and if he wants to hang 600 lb doors on his truck and ride around L.A. go for it . Im not trying to make light of people that make military armor im making a point that he can have someone build him doors that will protect him from normal run of the mill thug gun calibers in the U.S. without trying to buy military armor .

 

[patracy]

It's not about making it thicker. It's about deflecting as much energy as possible.

 

[Retiredwarhorses]

It's not about making it thicker. It's about deflecting as much energy as possible.

while true, the only way to achieve this is thickness and angles, as witnessed by how the hmmwv armor packages are applied via FRAG levels “confusing in its own Right”. there are no slopes on a hmmwv for the most part, the perimeter armor is both ballistic grade and aluminum, laid on as part of FRAG packages, early armor is “composite armor” no longer used. Anyone can weld steel on a truck, most ammunition encountered will be pistol calibers, that’s easy to defeat, rifle calibers too stateside due to all FMJ and not AP….now, once you encounter a true AP round? Well….that’s where all bets are off.

 

[Autonomy_Lost]

while true, the only way to achieve this is thickness and angles, as witnessed by how the hmmwv armor packages are applied via FRAG levels “confusing in its own Right”. there are no slopes on a hmmwv for the most part, the perimeter armor is both ballistic grade and aluminum, laid on as part of FRAG packages, early armor is “composite armor” no longer used. Anyone can weld steel on a truck, most ammunition encountered will be pistol calibers, that’s easy to defeat, rifle calibers too stateside due to all FMJ and not AP….now, once you encounter a true AP round? Well….that’s where all bets are off.

AP, API, and APIT rifle rounds are all currently legal under federal US law. You can have 50BMG API shipped right to your door (state law varies however).

Side note, can I ask why some members are talking about being thrown out for discussing armor? Is there some legal implication that I don't know about?

 

[juanprado]

AP, API, and APIT rifle rounds are all currently legal under federal US law. You can have 50BMG API shipped right to your door (state law varies however).

Side note, can I ask why some members are talking about being thrown out for discussing armor? Is there some legal implication that I don't know about?

This thread went from A-Z and other posts were deleted ......

 

[Retiredwarhorses]

AP, API, and APIT rifle rounds are all currently legal under federal US law. You can have 50BMG API shipped right to your door (state law varies however).

Side note, can I ask why some members are talking about being thrown out for discussing armor? Is there some legal implication that I don't know about?

well aware…that’s not my point, an Abrams can be knocked out too with the right round, I’m referring to what 99.9% of what you would encounter CONUS.

 

[chucky]

How do the green tip rufos 50 cal rounds do on military armor ?

 

[patracy]

This thread went from A-Z and other posts were deleted ......

And no one got the hint. Maybe this time they will.