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In an earlier thread ya'll convinced me a 803 is what I need. I am wondering what are some problems ya'll look for when purchasing one?
If I were you, I would download the TM's and asorted other things here from the TM forum, and read the operators TM, (both the engine and gen set) 2-3 times. Then thumb through the -24P TM for BOTH the engine and gen set. Then find someone near you who has one. Go look, and play with it. That way when you look at one for you, you at least know what should be there and if it works right. Reading several billion threads here in the SS forum would not hurt. I did, and don't even own one. But I wanted to get an idea about whats the problems that seem to be "everyday" problems.
 

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Well if you can see it in person, thats best. You can look the set over for overall condition (leaking fluids, general visible maintenance condition (corrosion, sounds, etc), with your eyes see that it produces power (and possibly shown under load that it will put out whats on the data plate at least) and that all gauges read correctly. Make sure the exhaust note sounds strong and without issue. Thats easier to do when you have had more seat time with these sets, but they should hum along nicely.

What you SEE is not always indicative of overall condition (I've seen a number of sets that got the old used car oil spray treatment to make them look better than they really are), so don't always judge the book by the cover. I take videos (if requested) for folks who are inquiring with me. A few examples:




 

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Some other things to look for are the Quad fuse mod. , does the owner know how to operate it correctly ( if he starts it up and lets it idle run away! )
If he load tests it and touches the throttle to keep the engine up to speed... Run away!
As LITD said, look for leaks especially at the fuel tank well nut and the return lines from the injectors.
Look where the muffler attaches to the exhaust manifold. A wet, black oily looking stain seeping out indicates excessive wet stacking a sign the machine was possibly neglected or used improperly ( although not the end of the world )
ALSO.... don't rely on the hour meter to make your choice! I have had lots of machines in the 1000 , 2000 3000 and even 4000 hour range that performed better than ones with 20 or even 200 hours. Sometimes the low hour units were sitting around unused for a reason!
When you go to see it, be sure to let it run for a while under a heavy load.
 

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Some other things to look for are the Quad fuse mod. , does the owner know how to operate it correctly ( if he starts it up and lets it idle run away! )
If he load tests it and touches the throttle to keep the engine up to speed... Run away!
As LITD said, look for leaks especially at the fuel tank well nut and the return lines from the injectors.
Look where the muffler attaches to the exhaust manifold. A wet, black oily looking stain seeping out indicates excessive wet stacking a sign the machine was possibly neglected or used improperly ( although not the end of the world )
ALSO.... don't rely on the hour meter to make your choice! I have had lots of machines in the 1000 , 2000 3000 and even 4000 hour range that performed better than ones with 20 or even 200 hours. Sometimes the low hour units were sitting around unused for a reason!
When you go to see it, be sure to let it run for a while under a heavy load.
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I'll really need to learn the proper starting procedures.
The manual ending -10 is where you will want to start for that. Its the Operator Manual, and goes through all the basics of the machine.

 

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Howdy,

You can go through this sticky to look at the parts. The 2nd post has quick links to lots of other neat stuff. The top of the 2nd post has a quicky startup routine, many folks forget about the emergency stop button.
3rd post has the TM's needed.

If buying at auction, or private seller NOTE: Look for the exhaust flap. No Exhaust flap could mean water damage in the engine.

 
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Guyfang

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Tell folks ahead of time. Cold Engine Start. When you show up, put your hand on the engine. Is it warm? If so, I would get back in my car and drive home.

There are about 1000 other things I would look for, some are listed above. But then this is what I did for close to 30 years. So I might have an advantage over you. But lots of things are pretty common sense. This is not rocket science. These machines are made simple, and tough as nails. Read some more threads, and the TM's. Get someone who KNOWS what its all about to teach you, or go with you.

LITD sells gen sets. He is one of the folks I have no trouble recommending. There are several more in the forum. Place an add in the forum. See who has something to sell. But get smart first.
 
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