• Steel Soldiers now has a few new forums, read more about it at: New Munitions Forums!

  • Microsoft MSN, Live, Hotmail, Outlook email users may not be receiving emails. We are working to resolve this issue. Please add support@steelsoldiers.com to your trusted contacts.

Rebuilding after 15 years of storage

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
Job for next weekend is save

20231025_065016z.jpg

Lokar arrived

20231025_064928z.jpg

also some other essential needed parts arrived as o-rings... used the last one in store two weeks ago
oilcooler-line (transmission), fittings

20231025_064824z.jpg

and some new hose-clamps for the cooling system

20231025_130842z.jpg
 
Last edited:

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
The installation of the Lokar cable shifter unit was really annoying.
I had read about dispappointed customer who report that there is a lot of customizing necessary. Die Stock-Kit doesnt fit generally.

We found following issues:

On the transmission installation was for the stock steering column connection customizinig by grinding the Screw mounting of the cable lever necessary. I do not like to weakening a mounting screw ... but there was no other choice - the connection are still not fastened

20231028_121939.jpg

To fix the connection we had to grind the Screw Bold as he had to move in the hole

20231028_115711z.jpg

For stock column you should have to use the first hole, also the sqaure hole for the Bold on the transmission doesnt fit - we had to grind this as well
if you had an aftermarket Column than the second hole on the right tip was to use

columnshifterz.png

20231028_121422z.jpg

the next was the shifter lever on the column. You shall mount the columnadapter (cable shall only be pulled not pushed!) with two screws.
Not possible as the lever haven not enough space.

20231028_125408z.jpg

So we descide to use the original hole for the first bolt with a fitting washer (hole) and drill the second hole

20231028_132946z.jpg

As cherry on the top was the fact that the column bracket for the cable not fit with the firewall

20231028_141835.jpg

The Firewall prevent the mounting of the Lokar bracket on the column. The bracket cannot be used plumb because the firewall is too close to it.
So we need a Plan B

20231028_150135.jpg

We just used a steelsheet on an existing bolt in the Firewall to fix the cable to the columnadapter. The cable shown up in line on the column adapter.
Not sure if this is a good solution. We will customize a triangle bracket with 3 point connection on the Firewall and than a test will shown if it work.
I dont know which other solution we could have for it.

We bought the Lokar 1804 Kit for Chevrolet stock Steering column Shifter and 4L80e
Maybe we expect to much on such a kit.
They dont make different Kits for different vehicles - so maybe it fit perfect in a Car with a GM Stock Steering column, but in a truck it will not fit without customizing you own cable bracket.
As it was made for the 4L80e should the parts fit on the specific without customizing :mad:
 

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
As we started the adjusting of the cable shifter was obviously that the instructions was not correct
Although we certainly have a stock steering column, the mounting in hole B was wrong.
After minor adjustments to the firewall bracket was then a smooth shifting possible

20231031_123136z.jpg

20231031_114714.jpg

20231031_124111.jpg

Rest of the day disambling again for painting and finished the tanklines

20231031_134643.jpg

20231031_142848z.jpg
 

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
after complete the column-shifting found we the next challenge on the exhaust system

20231102_101527.jpg

20231104_135112z.jpg

the exhaust tube running really near to the speedsensor so that we need to protect the sensor of this heat or install in other wise...
also the rubberbearing of the NP205 could involve of heat
Fortunately it exists several solutions of heat protection for such cases
 

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
A lot of other duties prevent a big step forward on the CUCV
To bring the old exhaust tubes with the new mufflers in place is again a lot of custimizing necessary
We need to protect the additional parts under the truck of the heat. Fortunately there is a lot of avialable which can be used for it.
So we put the parts on our next shopping order and go on with other things like the rewire the military hitch

IMG-20231122-WA0000.jpg

we bought a new box where we still exchange the cover as it have a german name on it...

IMG-20231122-WA0002.jpg

IMG-20231122-WA0008.jpg

IMG-20231122-WA0006.jpg

IMG-20231122-WA0005.jpg

IMG-20231122-WA0004.jpg

IMG-20231122-WA0003.jpg
 

Mullaney

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
Supporting Vendor
7,774
19,890
113
Location
Charlotte NC
A lot of other duties prevent a big step forward on the CUCV
To bring the old exhaust tubes with the new mufflers in place is again a lot of custimizing necessary
We need to protect the additional parts under the truck of the heat. Fortunately there is a lot of avialable which can be used for it.
So we put the parts on our next shopping order and go on with other things like the rewire the military hitch

View attachment 911429

we bought a new box where we still exchange the cover as it have a german name on it...

View attachment 911430

View attachment 911431

View attachment 911432

View attachment 911433

View attachment 911434

View attachment 911435
.
Nicely done!


.
 

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
Still working on the exhaust system
Unfortunately you cant go to the next shop and buy what you need.
Nothing is common here.
We need to use a reducer on the passenger side from the front tube - however
First we had the wrong one and now with the right one is again a lot of prepare on the ends.
It was necessary to cut the old muffles from the tubes and as they was backed together
To separate them with less damage was a goal we got finally

20231209_120556z.jpg
the muffler are stainlesssteel - we paint them all in black (heat protection paint for exhaustsystems) only the tubes are all used
20231209_120719z.jpg
the reducer ist also stainless steel like all exhaust pipe clamps
only at the hangers we used steel again, we had to rebuild 3 of the lower clamps as the original was lost
20231209_125715z.jpg
20231209_125721z.jpg
20231209_121413z.jpg
20231209_121417z.jpg
20231209_121452z.jpg
need to be paint before mount the exhaust
20231209_120755z.jpg
drive side is ready

now it will be a bit delay in that job, as since yesterday we are grandparents and now our grand-daugther and of course their parents have our focus 🥳
 

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
Finally the exhaust system is finished

20231216_125558z.jpg

heatprotection for the speedsensor and the rubberbushing of torque-support of the NP205

20231216_115028.jpg

also on the fuel distribution of the dualtanks

20231216_115052.jpg

i wonder if we will got roadlicence with the muffler just 1 cm away from the brakelines.
But this was before the same, we dont change anything of that design.

20231216_125739.jpg

We will also have to discuss about the passenger side exhaust end tube
It direct the exhaust to people which are waiting at traffic lights
The Sierra have the same, an endtube on the right side and he got road license!
In the past we had weld an 90 Degree angle on the endtube of the passenger side to direct the exhaust to the bottom for road licence.
It is 30 years ago ... we will see next spring what the engineer for road licence will have changed before we got the road licence.
Like usual - US Cars - will not pass direct the test, oldtimer also not. There is always something the need to refuse
 

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
The 6.2 exhaust noise from the stock mufflers is very quiet. All of the racket originates under the hood.
It must be quiet as we have value for noise by stand beside and drive ahead in the vehicle documents which will be controlled if you be in trafficcontrol and an officer guess it is to loud. You lost roadlicence if you fail.
Of this we used silent Flowmaster muffler.

"Difficult" will be the emissioncontroltest. We never pass this in all the years in the first round. It need an engineer on the modern emissioncontrol device who knows to handle this old trucks.

If you want real V8 noise than you need to have a gasser. I love it but i love much more the dieselpower.
 

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
Chevy z.jpg

it exists - how could it be otherwise - rules and regulations for measurement of the noise on vehicles in Germany
Any aftermarket muffler muss fullfill these measurements

The Sierra LBZ Duramax have similar values 90 dBA Stand and 78 dBA drive ahead. I like to have a dual exhaust system for him but i fear it will fail the dBA check and with it road licence.... specially where we want add some upgrades on the engine.
 

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
We finished the tank assembly and bringing all electrical wiring to the front
20231223_122703z.jpg
a documentation of that wiring make sense
20231223_125110z.jpg
also to use waterprotected connectors
20231223_140015z.jpg
the worst part in that job was to make new holes in the firewall on the passenger side
We use the same waterproof connectors like on the light bar

20231224_134342z.jpg
we couldnt finished all as we miss the nuts for the connection, now all shops closed... of chrismas holidays
In the lightbar was enough material to cut a thread
left is entrance for radio antenna, the middle both wire are tank and the right wire is the complete wiring from the lightbar
20231224_134406z.jpg
another hole was necessary for the trailer hitch wiring, here is the entrance on the driver side.
20231224_134640.jpg
now we have our wiring chaos all together in the cab :ROFLMAO:
we found a small package first-aid kit which could fit in the Military-First-Aid Box
20231223_101634z.jpg
in Germany in every vehicle have to be a First-Aid-Kit - if it is not and you will be controlled.... yes you are right a fee is to pay ;) and as you see there are also standards of it DIN...
20231223_120905z.jpg
worked well
 

CARC686

Well-known member
276
487
63
Location
Las Cruces, New Mexico
I feel like I live in Mad Max after reading what the vehicle requirements are in Germany. No vehicle inspections of any kind required here. In my years of working on cars, I found a lot of guns, but never a first aid kit. Anyway, I like the way you speak English. You speak in parables sometimes. Merry Christmas and congratulations on becoming grandparents.
 

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
I feel like I live in Mad Max after reading what the vehicle requirements are in Germany. No vehicle inspections of any kind required here. In my years of working on cars, I found a lot of guns, but never a first aid kit. Anyway, I like the way you speak English. You speak in parables sometimes. Merry Christmas and congratulations on becoming grandparents.
Merry Chrismas and thanks you can follow my English. In my mind does i translate just german to english but we have different sentence structure. I guess it will be funny to follow that. Not to forget the grammar.
About the vehicle requirements - well I have now a lot of experience with the authorities and I can be just as stubborn. You have to beat them at their own game. 😇
If you want to take a driver's license test here, you must also present a first aid certificate. So it make sense to force by law in any vehicle a fist-aid-kit. But you have only to do this one time for the driver's licence test. Mine ist more than 40 years ago. You will be not forced to renew the certification.
In the event of an accident or health emergency, every adult is obliged to provide first aid. If you fail to do so, you can be held legally responsible. In fact, however, many people are overwhelmed by this. Not helping is not yet punished, but watching and not helping is a criminal offense that will be prosecuted. Even worse is taking photos/videos and post them online. I think this is not just a german problem, it is international....
 

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
Still waiting on the lock nut for the electrical sockets in the firewall. I could got immediatly plastic nuts but i want metal nuts like the sockets itself. So i have to wait. That mean the eletrical wiring have again a downtime
Meanwhile, we took care of the braking system
This is the first time we have done this with a pneumatic tool rather than manually.
This is a significant relief and is recommended to anyone who has access to compressed air and need to refill the complete system again.

20240106_134844.jpg
We dont reuse the bleeded fluid again, as you can see its dirt inside nevertheless the lines and calipers was new
20240106_135047z.jpg
The bottle size is 1 Liter
20240106_135230z.jpg
We need the complete 1 Liter DOT5 fluid to bleed the system sucessfully.

Another open issue is fixed - the upper radiator hose
The original does not fit anymore about the 6.5 watercross over
And the hose for the 6.5 engine from 98 Squarebodys also dont fit, it is to short
20231223_094744.jpg
so we use a tube
20240106_095348.jpg
 

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
Now let's tackle the electrics. First of all, a bit of tidying up before we start connecting the Dacota Digital and the additional devices

20240116_105408.jpg
20240116_135525z.jpg
Very timeconsuming - progress is slow
But I'd rather be slow and thorough than make a mistake somewhere that can take an infinite amount of time to find again
 

PHOENIX-GER

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
463
971
93
Location
Germany
if you think you have a big truck and enough space to bring all your additional devices in good space... will you learn that it is still a small one

The additonal lights and devices need 8 relays and several fuses and connections
One Fusebox is behind the speaker but this is not at all
We need to bring this also in a space where it is hide and save as also easy to access

20240127_121531.jpg

Well it is like th usual triangel

GoodFastCheapImage_b.png

you cant have it all
The other will go with a box at the firewall but in the space of the feet from the passenger...
Needed Space is 3200x80x60 mm

20240127_121542be.jpg

We also need a exchangeable lightbar for vehicles as our M1102 will not got roadlicence with the original lights. We dont want adapt the lights. It shall be to fit on the military hitch from the M1008. So we drive on the road with a exchangeable lightbar

Just checked what we have already in the shop:
Found a set new rearlights from our former BUS-Project in 1990 - wow since 33 years in storage
Found also backing up lights, no idea in which project this was left over 😅
Also found a new 13-pin trailer socket - this is a sparepart for our trailers
Frame will be done from solid iron tubes diameter 1,5 inch and a perforated sheet to pick up all lamps and signs

20240127_130842Z.jpg
Ours will be more expensive than buying one in the store, but it will meet our requirements for reliability and durability.
Reflectors will need to be purchase as also cable and fog-rearlights.
 
Top
AdBlock Detected

We get it, advertisements are annoying!

Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks useful features of our website like our supporting vendors. Their ads help keep Steel Soldiers going. Please consider disabling your ad blockers for the site. Thanks!

I've Disabled AdBlock
No Thanks