Suggestions on Large Tire Balancing...???

[JxxxOxxxE]

here is the website for what we use at our shop. Counteract Balancing Beads - Balancing the wheels of transportation, Improve fuel economy, Increase tire life, Reduce vibration, Reduce maintenance, Balance from truck to trailer, Trouble free and guaranteed, Environmentally friendly, North America, there is a size chart to. you can also use it with tubes.

according to their chart I would need 16 ounces per tire, at $40 per 16 oz (what I found them for), thats $160...thats not gonna happen...

 

[benand117]

holy crap i think we pay $200.00 for a case of 20 bags. i think we only charge $18.00 to the customers.

 

[tennmogger]

I tried ceramic balancing beads in 14.5 x 20 Michelin XL tires with poor results (up to 20 ounces per tire). The beads helped but the tires still had bounce problems. I had them spin balanced and fixed the problem. Balancing is necessary, IMHO, not because of the improved ride but because of the irregular wear that an unbalanced tire suffers. If you want long wear, a balanced tire will last longer. I put a lot of higher speed miles on mine.

As for simply plugging these big radials, I tried that once. It cost me a tire. The outer layers sealed ok but there was apparently a little leakage past the inner layer. The tread separated as air built up between the plies. An internal patch is good on a minor leak but a patch-plug should be used on a larger puncture. That's a patch with a plug attached that pulls through the prep'ed hole.

I have been looking for super singles that fit a 20" wheel, have better than a highway tread pattern (want mud tires) and are as tall as the Michelin XL's, but have not found any.

 

[seano11]

Up here we use bags of liquid one per truck tire and its good to go

 

[dilligaf13]

Get some old 14.00 or 16.00 radials and get them re-capped with whatever tread pattern you want.

 

[porkysplace]

Get some old 14.00 or 16.00 radials and get them re-capped with whatever tread pattern you want.

No caps on steer tires for on road use .

 

[dilligaf13]

Very, very true. The results are ugly.

 

[spicergear]

I'm running Dynabead ceramic beads in my XM-47's on my Unimog. They were never balanced by the previous owner and had slight wear spots but still at 80% tread. Michelin gets between $1,100 - $1,300 PER TIRE for these so I invested in the Dynabeads. There's a calculator on their website for the amount you need for the size of tire. Money well spent.

 

[Wolf.Dose]

Balancing tire is a very good idea. Basicaly here in GER we do it with all tires mounted on a passenerger car, a SUV, a Jeep or on a truck.
Wolf

 

[crazywelder72]

is it possible to use some sort of bead with a tube tire?

I would like to know the answer to this also.. have you ever gotten a answer?

 

[benand117]

there is no problem useing counteract in tubes. it's just not very fun getting it in there.

 

[crazywelder72]

there is no problem useing counteract in tubes. it's just not very fun getting it in there.

what size do you typically order?

 

[benand117]

Here is a link the the size chart.
http://www.counteractbalancing.com/counteract/images/application1.pdf
It doesn't list a 16.00 if that's what you have but I would go with 16oz bag. That's what we put in the 445/65r22.5. And that's a big tire. A little too much isn't a bad thing. I would stick with 16 oz with that size tire.

 

[benand117]

Here is a link the the size chart.
http://www.counteractbalancing.com/counteract/images/application1.pdf
It doesn't list a 16.00 if that's what you have but I would go with 16oz bag. That's what we put in the 445/65r22.5. And that's a big tire. A little too much isn't a bad thing. I would stick with 16 oz with that size tire.

 

[crazywelder72]

I emailed Counteract and got a reply within a few Hrs. They said 20oz. should be sufficient but may need more.

I replied and am now awaiting info on what size particles to get because my tires are already mounted so i am going in threw the valve stem; and how much it is and where can i get it or do i order direct.

Depending on the cost i may have to go the air soft pellet route. I dont want to but cost is a majior factor these days. I can get enough pellets to do it for about $40.

 

[tigger]

When i did tire work we used equel balance just dont get it wet, it turns to gooooo. and pluging a tire is not fixing a tire . if you pluged a tire that was used on the road in my shop you were fired on the spot!!!!!!

 

[tiny110]

i use 20oz of -10 windshield washer fluid in my 46" and 53" tires. works good

 

[crazywelder72]

i use 20oz of -10 windshield washer fluid in my 46" and 53" tires. works good

I forgot all about a liquid balance. A shop did that on my front wheel on my bike like 10 years ago, but i think they used slime.

I would think that a liquid balance would be ideal for the one wheel that has a inner tube.

 

[crazywelder72]

well I got my Airsoft pellets today that i ordered online. I let the air out of one tire and removed the stem and wouldn't you know.... The pellets don't fit threw the valve stem! The little i read about it implied they would. Looks like my buddies kid will get 8000 20gram pellets for zippo. I paid $22 and it would have been enough to do both front wheels.

I cant afford the counteract. It would cost about $60 a wheel. It looks like a awesome product, just cant afford it.

I wouldn't mind doing the Ceroglass but i cant get any info on particle size or pricing.

Looks like i will have to do the liquid balance unless i can get a massive amount of free samples.

 

[Kohburn]

check the pricing on this stuff

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