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Train horn mount

steelandcanvas

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The trick with these is that they also DRINK air. To get a good sound, you need to feed them with at least 100 PSI on a 1/2" air line.
There is also another important measurment factor when powering these horns, SCFM. Standard Cubic Fee per Minute. This is a volume measurement much like Amps with electricity. You can have high PSI, but without volume, it will not perform as designed. Seems like you Guys might have it figured out, but a larger pipe would provide more air volume. Is there a data plate on these horns specifying the required SCFM?
 

TheWeatherMan

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I got my nathan P3 horn mounted on top of the cab with a locomotive valve on it. Its surprisingly quiet in the cab, you still hear the horns just not as bad as outside. My buddy said today the turbo is louder than the horn. I get a lot of people seeing the horn and wanting me to blow it. And it is fun to scare the unsuspecting people with it every so often
 

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To talk about size, all of the horns y'all have mentioned (K3s, K5s, P3s, P5s, etc) would fit excellently under the bed. However, none of those would fit in the engine compartment... I'll dig up a good picture that shows how big these suckers are.

EDIT

Here you go: This Ford Fusion got quite an upgrade in the horn department! Everything would be better with a K5LA.
Mount them facing the rear of the truck, that way they will give you a speed boost every time you blast them! :driver:
 

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Not enough room,, looks like its gonna have to be in the back......


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjyUfV3W5zk&feature=relmfu[/media]
 

SasquatchSanta

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I've been told that small children are more sensitive to loud noises and can suffer partial and even total hearing loss from horns like these.

This is something to bear in mind especially when in parades where both sites of the street is lined with children.
 

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Some states have pretty stiff fines for violations like this, so be sure you check so you know what you're up against if authorities decide to take exception.... Just like ambulance sirens, air raid sirens, or fog horns, train horns are illegal on street vehicles.

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Thats why I have a manual valve, so I can control the volume. I do use them in parades carefully watching for small kids. the trainhorn can be quieter than the stock horn with the valve slightly pulled and have talked to people after the parade and they say the horns where not to loud and have no complants for anyone. If i do open the valve all the way I am sure it would be a huge problem as my friends over a mile away from my house here it fine when I do Mike
 

deuceaid

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Some states have pretty stiff fines for violations like this, so be sure you check so you know what you're up against if authorities decide to take exception.... Just like ambulance sirens, air raid sirens, or fog horns, train horns are illegal on street vehicles.

Jon
Jon, your taking all the fun out of pretending to be a train:cry:, but I agree, dont blow up little kids or anyone for that matter......I have seen videos of guys that have them on cars and sneak up to people at markets / shopping centers and blow it........thats not cool , and I wont post a link here.
 

JDToumanian

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I know, I'm a bigger buzz kill than Buzz Killington..... But I've gotten on engines too many times and gone to blow the horn and heard nothing but "SSSSSS" because the horns have been stolen. I firmly believe that over 90% of the train horns on the civilian market are stolen, and the railroad carriers believe that too. It is an occasional topic in company newsletters. I know they can check the serial numbers and frequently do; Special Agents of the Railroad Police (they have the same power as a Federal Marshall) go to train shows and scour eBay for this stuff. If the serial number is ground off they will probably assume it's stolen. They like to make arrests.

I'm just saying to be careful. If I had train horns on one of my MVs they would be well hidden indeed, and not because they look silly or I was worried about them getting (re)stolen. 2cents
 

John S-B

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I think you'd have to think about where to add the extra air tanks you're gonna need first, those will use up your supply fast!
 

saddamsnightmare

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July 3rd, 2011.

I kniow you guys are looking for a trauin horn, and I've owned several and at least one GP-9 (Locomotive), but for volume of sound on one air horn, hunt up a Nathan KS-1. I have one I bought back in the 1970's new for about $60.00, and it can be heard for about 3 miles, it's small enough to fit under the hood and you and the guy in front of you WILL both hear it.....:p! They were used on 1st generation road engines as the "Country" horn and are yet often seen on older switchers... not pretty sounding but they will get the message across. The other thing I would suggest on EBAY is look under air whistles for a WABCO trombone whistle, they were used on indistrial engines and interurban cars and they will make a fair amount of sound in a small package and light air consumption....2cents You get two notes on most and can hit it if you use the valve right (high note/low note combinations).
 

aaron379

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ive already mounted my extra tank and hooked it all up i think im going to mount it under the bed i dont to any extreme 10 wheeling so im thinking that would be the best place especially for the size issue the Leslie's are big... and im still debating on a manual valve or solenoid i guess its down to hassle with 2 big air lines or 2 small wires... and at the moment im thinging wire is the way to go
 

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The text below is from the following url:

http://www.wickedlocal.com/ipswich/news/business/x160319088/Residents-Train-horns-cause-hearing-loss#axzz1R6k8y1Ag

Residents: Train horns cause hearing loss




Ipswich —
A group of residents who live near the railroad tracks have formed Ipswich Citizens Action Committee to address the issue of the MBTA train horns. They are making contacts with similar committees in other communities, contacting legislators and researching on the Web. Tonight, some members joined other concerned Ipswich residents in offering more suggestions to the selectmen about how the process of getting the horns to stop blowing might be shortened.
The group is particularly concerned about the effect the loud horns are having on children. Kids, they say, are sleep deprived and are having trouble with their hearing. One parent testified tonight that her son has ringing in his ears now, which has been caused by the horns. Some parents are having their children's hearing tested and the group is working with a hearing specialist to establish a baseline screening. The train horns blow anywhere from 96 decibels up to 120 decibels. Hearing loss can be caused by noises at 85 decibels.


 

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The text below is from the following url:

http://www.wickedlocal.com/ipswich/news/business/x160319088/Residents-Train-horns-cause-hearing-loss#axzz1R6k8y1Ag

Residents: Train horns cause hearing loss




Ipswich —
A group of residents who live near the railroad tracks have formed Ipswich Citizens Action Committee to address the issue of the MBTA train horns. They are making contacts with similar committees in other communities, contacting legislators and researching on the Web. Tonight, some members joined other concerned Ipswich residents in offering more suggestions to the selectmen about how the process of getting the horns to stop blowing might be shortened.
The group is particularly concerned about the effect the loud horns are having on children. Kids, they say, are sleep deprived and are having trouble with their hearing. One parent testified tonight that her son has ringing in his ears now, which has been caused by the horns. Some parents are having their children's hearing tested and the group is working with a hearing specialist to establish a baseline screening. The train horns blow anywhere from 96 decibels up to 120 decibels. Hearing loss can be caused by noises at 85 decibels.


Really? I mean seriously, what is this country coming to. This story sounds like it's leading into a lawsuit against the railroad for horns being too loud. If you think the train horns are loud why the he!! Would you move beside some tracks.... If you think the trains are loud, MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it just me or are the petty issues in this country becoming more and more annoying.... This BS ranks right up there with all the HOA anticts...


Just a side note, I'm not mad at the Person who posted this. But rather the plain lack of common sense this nation seems to have more and more of everyday. And if it keeps up we will be in for alot of trouble in the years to come
 

deuceaid

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I know, I'm a bigger buzz kill than Buzz Killington..... But I've gotten on engines too many times and gone to blow the horn and heard nothing but "SSSSSS" because the horns have been stolen.
THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!! being a former railroad employee, I KNOW that most of the common people have NO FRAKING CLUE about how dangerous trains ARE!!! PERIOD!!!!....... I dont want to go on a big rant, but if people knew that the door on a box car ( the "door alone") was almost a ton... they wouldnt get so close to the tracks if the door falls off..... well game over man..........and never mind the human error things that happen............

......... I ALWAYS...ALWAYS......ALWAYS......and ALWAYS slow down and listen to the ( Grade) crossings .....(the stoping part,,, but I always look and listen before a grade crossing),, but I knew no trains were following us,, and nothing was going fast up that hill...

as stated ( drilled into me from my instructor)

" Saftey IS of the FIRST IMPORTANCE in the discharge of DUTY"
 

hdmax

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I would agree with you on Standard Cubic Fee per Minute if one was to blow the horn for extended periods of time, but it will have very little to do with this because not many will blow the train horn for more then a few seconds. I have tested the deuce air system with my train horns, and had no problem running out or even low on air with several 1-4 second burst within maybe a minute.
There is also another important measurment factor when powering these horns, SCFM. Standard Cubic Fee per Minute. This is a volume measurement much like Amps with electricity. You can have high PSI, but without volume, it will not perform as designed. Seems like you Guys might have it figured out, but a larger pipe would provide more air volume. Is there a data plate on these horns specifying the required SCFM?
 
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