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Turbo Identification (whistler or not?)

Sweet Rides

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Here are a couple of Pics from the Engine plate and Turbo plate of a M35 which I am interested in.

I am trying to identify whether the Turbo is a 3LJ319 "whistler" type turbo or not - as I can`t see this code, or one of the other turbo codes I`ve seen mentioned stamped into the Turbo`s plate.

If anyone knows what model of turbo is in this picture that would be very helpful. I`m afraid I don`t have any other pics at the moment except for these.

Thanks for any help.
 

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Starting around 1973 or so deuces were turbocharged from the factory and had a turbo different from the common “whistler” and “non whistler” everyone usually has. The one I had years ago had a little bit of whistle but nothing like the true whistler. Perhaps it’s that model as they did have a data plate on them.
 

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Starting around 1973 or so deuces were turbocharged from the factory and had a turbo different from the common “whistler” and “non whistler” everyone usually has. The one I had years ago had a little bit of whistle but nothing like the true whistler. Perhaps it’s that model as they did have a data plate on them.
Hmmm, that could well be the case, Ive just no idea as I`m pretty new to these rigs.

I do know the engine is a 1982 model LDT465-1C built by White. But I don`t know if that turbo is even the original unit to that engine... It could be a turbo from a seventies engine. I`m basically lost!
 

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Interesting. I think we'd need a pic that shows it more from the side, showing both scrolls.

Is the truck a runner? Listen to the noise it makes and decide whether you like it. If it was me looking for a truck I'd note as a plus that it is a turbocharged engine and move on to other components that can be dealbreakers. The turbo is bolted on and can be swapped out anytime quite easily.

Turbos of all flavours are readily available.

My five cents!


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The -1C engine was the engine that originally had the whistler turbo on it. However, by this time, the turbo could have been replaced, or the truck rebuilt and a different turbo added. I've had -1Ds with whistler turbos, although I don't think I've had a -1C without a whistler. I know it is possible, but I've not come across one in the 25 or so deuces I've owned.
 

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I agree with the above stated, my ‘67 received its final depot build in 1989/91 (can’t remember) and received a LDT-465-1D with the quieter “D” turbo, rebuilt transmission, rebuilt axles, dropside bed and other goodies but of all things they reinstalled a rebuilt sprag :vomit: transfer case instead of an air shift. It was very common near the end of these trucks prime time just toss whatever good parts left on the shelf in them to get them out and rolling rather than ordering what should have been installed



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Thanks for everyones help. In the end I decided not to buy this truck as it was really way way too much work. So unfortunately this tale will remain unsolved and that turbo`s identity will continue to be a bit of a mystery.
 

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Thanks for everyones help. In the end I decided not to buy this truck as it was really way way too much work. So unfortunately this tale will remain unsolved and that turbo`s identity will continue to be a bit of a mystery.
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At least this way you won't be disappointed with it...
Sometimes making a decision like this ends up helping you find another - possibly with less repair work on your part.
OR, if not how it ends up at least you have something to compare it with!
 

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At least this way you won't be disappointed with it...
Sometimes making a decision like this ends up helping you find another - possibly with less repair work on your part.
OR, if not how it ends up at least you have something to compare it with!
Yep, exactly that. Unfortunately there are very few M35`s actually in the U.K and of those, maybe a couple or so come up for sale each year, so the choice is not exactly massive. But i`m not in a rush and the more I get to see then the better grasp I can get of comparing them and whats to be expected etc.
 

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A usual 'guide'..is if the Turbo Housing is slender. They whistle at VARYING degrees.
A 'FAT' turbo wheel housing, more puff less whistle.
Every truck of mine, deuce or 5 ton has been retro fitted (By me/us)..with a SLIM turbo housing "REAL shreaker!." turbo.

OH, And the fat housing unit is a 'D' turbo.
And the thin housing turbo is a 'C' turbo.
 
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Hi everyone, I'm currently in the market for a Whistler turbo for my 66'. I came across a NOS on Ebay and was wondering if anyone could tell if it was a Whistler turbo from the pictures? I asked for more but he said he didn't have any due to him selling the one that was pictured and has 2 others in original packaging
 

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I can't make out what the label says. I believe the whistler turbo NSN to be 2950-00-148-7985
Also, on the compressor side, a C whistler has the manufacturer (Schwitzer) cast into it and the number on the housing is 3LG319.
The two halves of the C-turbo are clamped together (with an exhaust clamp looking thing), whereas the D-turbo halves are bolted.
The pic, at least for me, is an awkward view angle for ID'ing the turbo. It looks right with the skinny scroll, but I defer to the gurus on the site to weigh in. I guess the LDS Schwitzer "whistler" is fatter as well, more like the D.
 
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The number you gave is on the box a little blurry with the pictures from uploading but clear with original picture. I thought it looked like it had the right style of clamp holding the halves together. I appreciatethe info. I'll have to see what other gurus come up with as well

I can't make out what the label says. I believe the whistler turbo NSN to be 2950-00-148-7985
Also, on the compressor side, a C whistler has the manufacturer (Schwitzer) cast into it and the number on the housing is 3LG319.
The two halves of the C-turbo are clamped together (with an exhaust clamp looking thing), whereas the D-turbo halves are bolted.
The pic, at least for me, is an awkward view angle for ID'ing the turbo. It looks right with the skinny scroll, but I defer to the gurus on the site to weigh in. I guess the LDS Schwitzer "whistler" is fatter as well, more like the D.
 

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Post12 gives a very good view of the C and D
 
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