USMC Mutt V Ranger Mutt

[mlongwill]

Forgive me if this has been covered, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me the difference between the USMC FAV and the Ranger or Airbourne FAV. From what I've researched there doesn't seem to be a lot of uniformity of these vehicles. It seems like the operators decided how to equip each truck. That's making it a little hard for me to tell the two apart. Any info would be great!
Thanks

Post edit: The only thing I can think of is the passenger 45 degree M60 mount.

 

[FrankUSMC]

The ones that I got close to were Marine ones. Every thing on them was home made, no big money to contractors to make the parts. The roll cage is made of steel plumping pipe, with 90 degree elbows at the corners, the pipe was not bent like on a roll bar. The dash mount was the top 8? inches of a pedestal machine gun mount that has been cut off and welded to a steel plate, then bolted to the dash. The two I saw were parked next to each other, and were built deferent from each other as far as the mounting of guns and ammo.
One of the few, Frank USMC RET

 

[mlongwill]

Thanks Frank

 

[B3.3T]

Same with the army ones. They were made with local mods and differed greatly.

 

[Austringer]

I used to have oneverything of the delta or airborne ones. Very different from the usmc ones. Will post pics tmw.

 

[mlongwill]

That would be great. Thanks

 

[Austringer]

https://picasaweb.google.com/105335140802959031943/CAVM151A2MODSOLD?authuser=0&feat=directlink

 

[MWMULES]

I am pretty sure Artillerydan has one of each and pictures of one of them are in his album here http://www.steelsoldiers.com/album.php?albumid=71

 

[mlongwill]

Oh man, this is great, thanks a lot gents!

 

[B3.3T]

Here is an airborne model that was at the MVPA Convention in Portland, 2008. It was from Ft. Lewis. Very nicely done with most of the same mods done on the Ranger versions.

 

[Artillerydan]

OK been a while since I laid all this out. I have the 2nd variation of the USMC FAV (restored) - Kit removed from demilled Ranger FAV (unrestored) - Some of the parts from a US Army Delta/Special Forces version (unrestored ). The two latter "parts kits" will be installed on Jeeps in the next few years.

USMC FAVs 3 variations

Variation #1 - Tube is all screwed together water pipe with water pipe fittings. I am sure the first rollover popped the threads like a piece of spaghetti. All indications are they were shop made in Barstow



Variation #2 - Same basic lines and placement but all welded pipe. Many little differences and refinements. All indications are they were shop made in Barstow



Variation #3 - More complete roll bar assy with HMMWV Turret ring. All indications are they were shop made in Barstow. There is an article floating around from Leatherneck magazine or??? How one of the soldiers invented this with spare parts or some such thing.




US ARMY Delta or Special forces 1 basic variation




US Army Fort Lewis Ranger 1 variation

My understanding talking to the guy I bought my "kit" from was, these were from the US Army Rangers stationed at Ft Lewis. The only one I know of "completed" is the one at the 2008 MVPA convention in Portland. I do belive the restored M151A2 has items that were not on the original. Like the bridge plate, USMC bumper, and maybe the size of the rear stowage baskets. I purchased the "kit" I have at the 2013 convention in Portland.
This was NOT shop made and was definitely made by a certified welder. Not just cobbled together from extra parts.

 

[badgerord]

You do need a Mutt! Everyone needs an AR-15/M16, an M1911 and a Mutt!