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USMC MV-22 Osprey - air to air video flying over Lake Tahoe

M813rc

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My younger Marine son is a gunner on V-22's. As an old CH-53 guy, I find that to be a somewhat bizarre aircraft!

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My younger Marine son is a gunner on V-22's. As an old CH-53 guy, I find that to be a somewhat bizarre aircraft!
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Yes - they seem a bit awkward looking too me. Not really a fan of them myself, but they are quite capable aircraft.

Are they really worth the money they cost to develop and purchase? Not in my opinion..... :roll:
 

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Just from the V-22 specs...


  • 428 Nautical Mile mission radius is 4.28 times what the CH-53 can do
  • 270 Knots cruise speed is 1.8 times what the CH-53 can do
  • In Helicopter mode, the max altitude of 10,000feet is 3.14 times what a CH-53 will do
  • In Airplane mode, the max altitude of 25,000 feet is 7.68 times what a CH-53 will do

I've flown in a simulator/trainer for the smaller civilian version - I'm a fan. [thumbzup]
 

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Hey! Quit slagging my CH-53, the V-22 replaced the CH-46!! ;)
If you really want to be impressed, compare the performance of those two.

I have to point out though, service ceiling for a CH-53 is 18,500', not 3250'.

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Just from the V-22 specs...


  • 428 Nautical Mile mission radius is 4.28 times what the CH-53 can do
  • 270 Knots cruise speed is 1.8 times what the CH-53 can do
  • In Helicopter mode, the max altitude of 10,000feet is 3.14 times what a CH-53 will do
  • In Airplane mode, the max altitude of 25,000 feet is 7.68 times what a CH-53 will do

I've flown in a simulator/trainer for the smaller civilian version - I'm a fan. [thumbzup]

Yep - impressive specs! But here is what I think about, they are much more expensive than a CH-53 too. Based on my memory twice the cost and they cannot lift as much. I'd have to recheck that to be sure.

Program cost = $35.6 billion after planned procurement of 408 aircraft
Unit cost = MV-22 $72.1 million flyaway each for FY2015


We only have so much money, I just want it to be spent wisely!

I just wonder what else could be done with those funds. How about a few more F-22s?
 

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Not slagging, just a different role to play - I love big airframes too :beer:. '53s and '47s are awesome for heavy lift. '22s are better for light fast insertions and extractions.

Like the difference between a Deuce and an M37...

...We only have so much money, I just want it to be spent wisely! I just wonder what else could be done with those funds. How about a few more F-22s?
Could kill F35 and just keep F18s, F22s, and A10s...
 
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We see them all the time getting refuled.

Big, wide, and loud.
Not made to sling loads like 47s, 53s, or even 60 (can sling 9k pounds).
24 seats isn't really a lot either.
its a VTOL airplane, not a real helicopter. Cant really autorotate.

The high ceiling isn't a real bonus since it isn't pressurized. You'll be on supplemental O2 if above 10k ft for any real time.

Id take a MH-47 with the bigger fuel tanks and inflight refueling probe!

its a cool aircraft, just comparing it to a real helicopter isn't really its deal. its a different mission.

Semperr Fi
 
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