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which battery caused the other to die?

edpdx

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My M1009 groaned when I expected it start- it's been running like a champ. But today it just slowly turned over a piston's worth and that was all. I pulled the front battery cables and the tester said replace. I checked the warranty and purchase date of April 2020, and figured it was time for a new battery, Napa sold me the same one for about $140. Put it in and exactly the same result. I just checked the rear battery- Says replace. I am checking to see if an ancient battery charger will bring the amps up so I can put a newer charger on it. Question is both batteries at once? What happened? did one die and drain the other off as well? which one was the likely culprit?
 

williamh

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4 years on a modern battery is doing real good. The days of getting 5+ is over even in agm or lithium ion , I got 6 on some group 31’s on my duces. Same on my 6t’s on the funvee but at 500 a shot gets me real gun shy. Military batts seem to get past 5 but even the optima batts are a crap shoot. Would rather throw in some Wally Worlds that have a 3yr warranty than going to Napa. Most are made in the same factory in mex and get a sticker.
 

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If I'm not mistaken, batteries will not equalize (or draw from each other) when wired in series (double the voltage), such an in our CUCV's. If batteries are wired in parallel (double the amps), then yes, they can equalize, where the weaker one will pull from the stronger one. I'd say more than likely, both of your batteries were bad at the same time.

But I would also recommend checking your alternators to make sure they are charging your batteries correctly.
 

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The (only) nice thing about the CUCV charging system is that each battery gets its own alternator, so one battery can’t “bring down” the other as can happen on other 24 volt trucks. Agree, unless you are running a battery maintainer, 4 years is about it for a typical battery.
 

edpdx

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Thanks, Bob H. I ran up a charge with a manual (not smart) charger, then switched to my BatteryMINDer 2012. It is a slow charger and desulfator . I haven't load tested the battery yet, but the charger did not indicate bad cell/battery.

Just went to start it, and I am getting a slow groan much like dead batteries Rrrr, Rrrr. Could this be the starter. I'm stumped at the lack of crank>
 

NDT

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Slow cranking can be caused by corrosion where cable ring terminals are connected to firewall buss bars, or corrosion between the wire and the ring terminal. Feel for very hot connections after cranking.
 

edpdx

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NDT, thanks for this help. I just finished checking the condition of the cable ends at the POSITIVE (upper) bus. One cable seemed too easy to loosen. A close look revealed a history of carbon arcing. Cleaned with electrical solvent and wire brush. That did it. Back in business. Hope that was the fix and not a coincidental fluke. Good call, thanks!
 
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