Working On The M561 Gama Goat

[mkcoen]

I was asked for some pics of the MWO moving the buss bar to the side of the engine compartment so here they are:



It's located on the driver's side just under the bilge pump hose.

 

[Gamagoat1]

Can you provide us a MWO number or, better yet, a picture of the MWO it's self.

I was asked for some pics of the MWO moving the buss bar to the side of the engine compartment so here they are:

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It's located on the driver's side just under the bilge pump hose.

 

[mkcoen]

Can you provide us a MWO number or, better yet, a picture of the MWO it's self.

I don't have the MWO as it had already been performed on my Goat when I got it. I believe m38inMaine might have a copy (or someone in one of the other Goat threads).

 

[Gamagoat1]

I have seen most of the changes authorized for the Goat, but that one I have not seen. With no guard to protect it , it's a bad location. The fact that it rarely gets used makes me wonder why move it.

I don't have the MWO as it had already been performed on my Goat when I got it. I believe m38inMaine might have a copy (or someone in one of the other Goat threads).

 

[mkcoen]

I have seen most of the changes authorized for the Goat, but that one I have not seen. With no guard to protect it , it's a bad location. The fact that it rarely gets used makes me wonder why move it.

There is a guard for the buss bar I just have it removed for the photos. If you ever need to access it I'd much rather have it here than on the back of the tub under the radiator.

 

[Gamagoat1]

There is a guard for the buss bar I just have it removed for the photos. If you ever need to access it I'd much rather have it here than on the back of the tub under the radiator.

Agreed.. I've only accessed mine when installing the slave receptacle.
You're right, it's a bear..

 

[combat32]

Thanks Mark, that's what I needed!

 

[mkcoen]

I finally got my oil pan gasket (that I ordered over a month ago). Since the motor is already in I guess I don't really need it but for $8 I can stick it in a drawer in case the need ever comes up. It took flipping it around 3 times before I got the holes to line up. It definitely only goes in 1 way but once oriented correctly it's an exact fit. I got it at: http://store.carpcoastalmarine.com/ in case anyone else needs one (thanks to m38inMaine for finding it).

 

[Another Ahab]

I finally got my oil pan gasket (that I ordered over a month ago). Since the motor is already in I guess I don't really need it but for $8 I can stick it in a drawer in case the need ever comes up. It took flipping it around 3 times before I got the holes to line up. It definitely only goes in 1 way but once oriented correctly it's an exact fit.

Murphy's Law of course dictates that you won't get the right alignment for fit until the very moment that you have exhausted all the other possibilities.

It's just science.

It would be nice of course to stamp the gasket "This Side Up" and "This Edge Forward". But why make things easy for anybody, right!?

 

[Keith_J]

And the Permatex Ultra Black gasket compound is still working great .

It should, that is what my little turbo diesel uses, aluminum pan to cast iron block. Factory spec, although VW has their own proprietary blend, Permatex stuff is even better. This gasket joint has very little pressure.

 

[mkcoen]

Keith over today to get the pistons/sleeves out of the old block. What a PITA! Finally got one out. The sleeves appear to be sticking from the partially melted o-rings at the water jacket.

 

[mkcoen]

Finally got the other 2 out. Last time I try doing that. I have a huge amount of respect for the mechanics that had to work on these in the service. I'm sure they had the appropriate tools for the job but most Company level guys probably had to do everything with the engine still in the Goat. I know they would 't have been pulling piston sleeves but even changing a starter in tub would have been a pain.

 

[combat32]

I am sure Mark will be glad to get those, talked to a fella the other day who was a 63b light wheel mechanic back it the day. I told him I had bought a goat, he immediatley started cursing, telling me what a PITA they were to work on.

 

[m38inmaine]

Good job, I suspect you are correct on the o ring. Since my pistons were seized in the sleeve I did not have to be as gentle. Thanks Keith for helping Mark, much appreciated.

 

[Keith_J]

Gentle? Mark had tried with a piece of 1-1/4" galvanized pipe, no luck. I used a piece of much heavier walled ERW tube, a little larger in diameter but twice the wall thickness. Even then, we cut off the mangled end contacting the liners...4 times .

I reworked the engine support stands to make a puller but didn't have material to make the sleeve fingers. Oh well, welding is fun.

 

[Another Ahab]

I reworked the engine support stands to make a puller but didn't have material to make the sleeve fingers. Oh well, welding is fun.

Agreed. What about molten metal isn't fun and a total gas!?

(I mean, you know, with a judicious amount of caution being applied, of course)

 

[Keith_J]

Agreed. What about molten metal isn't a total gas!?

(I mean, you know, with a judicious amount of caution being applied, of course)

GTAW (TIG) is real fun. No sparks, slag or smoke. The WYSIWYG of welding. All welding is best when it is cool outside.

Back to the topic at hand, I will make a pulling finger set for the 3-53, just because it will be needed by someone here. $500 tool.

 

[combat32]

Mark do you mean this gizmo? If so they are welded on, I can cut them off the parts truck.

 

[mkcoen]

Mark do you mean this gizmo? If so they are welded on, I can cut them off the parts truck.

Yep that's it. Mine's missing so it looks like there was a strip bolted to the tub with those attached. I didn't know they were actually welded to the tub.

 

[combat32]

I will get them.