Yet another starter broken thread.

[AECS]

I know no one wants to read another broken starter bolt thread but I have one that 2 days’ worth of searching has not answered.

While doing routine inspection the other day I discovered a missing starter bolt, looked up on the block and the bolt from the support bracket to the block was gone as well. I was hopeful that it had just backed out and fell off, but when the new bolt would not thread all the way in I knew it was broken.

I dropped the starter, used my Craftsman Screw Out reverse drill thingy, and got the piece out, easy day! Problem is when I dropped the starter I was hit in the forehead by a tiny chunk of the starter housing. It broke off right at the edge where the starter mates to the block. Everything else is 4.0. Question is can I run it like this with 2 good new starter bolts, and the support bracket in place or am I at risk of breaking the block?
Thanks
Rich

 

[Keith_J]

Seen it before. Either have the nose cone repaired (aluminum casting, easily welded) or replaced. Otherwise the bolts will continue to break.

 

[Warthog]

The 27MT (direct drive) nose nose can be found at NAPA for about $16. No need to chance breaking the block.

 

[doghead]

How tiny?

Can you post a pic?

 

[AECS]

It is not the nose cone, it is the body of the starter right where the bolt goes through.

 

[AECS]

How tiny?

Can you post a pic?

I will have to remove it again, as I re-installed it while I was waiting for an answer.

 

[Warthog]

The mounting holes are part of the nose cone

 

[AECS]

It is about a 1/8 square chip here, but in the surface that sits against the block. Warthog, thanks for setting me straight about the bolt holes being in the nose cone.

 

[Warthog]

Do you know if you have a 27MT direct drive or the 28MT gear reduction? Is the motor portion fat or skinny? Knowing that we can tell you which nose cone to order.

Post #45 has the two sizes of starters.

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?15551-Starter-bracket-bolt-size

 

[AECS]

Its the direct drive still. If I can't track one down, I will have it welded. I have access to excellent aircraft certified welders at work, so that might be better then a new Chinese POS....

 

[Warthog]

Here are a couple of threads with similar issues.

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?114902-Starter-cases
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?102910-Guess-I-know-why-it-won-t-start

 

[AECS]

Thanks Warthog, I saw those, but didn't pay to much attention as I did not have the nose cone as the problem. No luck at 3 Napa's here in the valley, foundone at an auto-electric shop 45 miles north of here for 22 bucks.

Thanks again for all the help

 

[AECS]

Well made the hour drive to Fresno and got me a nice new nose cone... But I think it is the wrong one, it has the big opening for the Bendix gear, I think that is for the manual transmision not he auto, will it work? I have read a couple threads where it was asked, but never saw a yes or no answer.

 

[Warthog]

Big mouth or small mouth. They both work the same for your needs. Now if you had a manual transmission you would need the big mouth starter.

 

[AECS]

Sweet!