deuce wheel stud

[welldigger]

If there's anywhere that builds rock crawlers near you check them out. Here local I have a place called kryptonite kustoms. They supply me all of my Rockwell axle parts. Google them and go to their website. I know for a fact they stock wheel studs. Can't tell you the price tho.

 

[rosco]

Check the heavy truck store in your area. Best to take it out first, and take what is left of it to match the one on the bench. That was a good stud too. No sign of an earlier crack, before it broke. When you check the rears for tight, you have to loosen the outside nut first, then tighten the inside one, then re-tighten the outside nut.

 

[Ford Mechanic]

I know this is a real stupid question but, what's the torque spec for the lug nuts? I haven't seen it in the TM but I might have missed it. Has anyone ever broke one from the over tightening them? I've just been tightening them as tight as I can get them with the 5 ft breaker bar.

 

[cattlerepairman]

TM 9-2320-209-10-4, page 39. http://test.steelsoldiers.com/upload/M35/TM9-2320-209-10-4.pdf

Five foot breaker bar and standing on it should be about right. 325-350 foot pounds.

 

[rosco]

Lug Bolt Torque: Using the long breaker bar, put them on till they pop! Its a tried and true, old time, truckers rule of thumb.

 

[doghead]

Thank goodness for DOT regs and inspections. They use a torque wrench. I'm sure this has significantly reduced failures and road safety.

 

[doghead]

Perhaps I should elaborate.

I have no issue with a 200lb guy using a 4' pipe and guessing he put almost 100lbs of force on it, to get to 350 ft/lbs.

But to just use a long bar and put all you have on it and stop when you hear a noise, I think is piss poor advise.

In the example above, do you see how easy it would be for the same 200lb guy to over tighten them by 100%? That will cause a failure eventually, for sure.

You must use some finite input, not sound. (what torque value does something "pop"?)

 

[o1951]

TM 9-2320-209-10-4, page 39. http://test.steelsoldiers.com/upload/M35/TM9-2320-209-10-4.pdf

Five foot breaker bar and standing on it should be about right. 325-350 foot pounds.

Whoa! TM -"325 to 350 pound-feet". Dressed, with boots, I weigh about 210 pounds. Most of you are probably in that range. If I figure right, standing on the bar about 19 inches from the center gets me in range. End of 5 foot bar is more than 3 times 350 ft/lbs max.
DH - My response is to post 25. You responded while I was writing.

 

[Ford Mechanic]

What about us light-weight's? 170lbs dressed out.

In all seriousness, how should I get them that tight? I've never seen a torque wrench that big! I've never looked for one either. We do have a torque multiplier here at the shop, but I tried to use it removing the lugs that I couldn't get off and it was still a no-go the pipe it had was too short. If you've got a torque wrench that big, where and $? At the moment all I've got is the Snap-on 1/2 impact, a 5ft breaker bar and a 6 ft piece of steel pipe that I tackle lug nuts with. My truck is singled with a set of the front axle style lug nuts on the rear tires now.

Thanks

 

[porkysplace]

What about us light-weight's? 170lbs dressed out.

In all seriousness, how should I get them that tight? I've never seen a torque wrench that big! I've never looked for one either. We do have a torque multiplier here at the shop, but I tried to use it removing the lugs that I couldn't get off and it was still a no-go the pipe it had was too short. If you've got a torque wrench that big, where and $? At the moment all I've got is the Snap-on 1/2 impact, a 5ft breaker bar and a 6 ft piece of steel pipe that I tackle lug nuts with. My truck is singled with a set of the front axle style lug nuts on the rear tires now.

Thanks

Quit drinking light beer and hit the gym

 

[doghead]

What about us light-weight's? 170lbs dressed out.

All your weight (lift your feet off the ground) at 2' of bar will be just about perfect for you. Or about to lift yourself at 3' will be on the mark.

Seriously.


Here's a good option, if you own a big impact and more than one truck. http://www.torquestick.com/cart/350ft-lb-475-Nm-TORQUE-STICK-TORQUE-EXTENSION-BAR-3-4-DRIVE.html

Otherwise, a stop at a truck tire shop once in a while is a good idea too.

 

[marchplumber]

Amazing, how something so simple can cause so much consternation! I did find them locally, but their prices were higher than a large MV surplus dealer. So, I ordered a complete sets L and R. They will be here in Two days. Disappointed in the locals, but they set the price not me. Their loss. THANKS for the help, the info that DH gave really got the ball rolling on this end! Thanks DH!
God bless,
Tony

 

[o1951]

What about us light-weight's? 170lbs dressed out.

In all seriousness, how should I get them that tight? I've never seen a torque wrench that big! I've never looked for one either.
Thanks

I have a torque wrench that goes to 500. The method we described works well in the field. 170# and 2 feet out is close.
At home, DH post 31 - torque stick is good enough. Here is a torque wrench that will do the job.

Wright 0-600 Ft. Lbs. Dial Type Torque Wrench 6470

Regular Price: $884.32

On Sale For: $530.59

Shipping Weight: 16lb
Quantity:

Wright

Size 0-600 Ft. Lbs.

• Weight 14.00
• Drive 3/4"
• Torque Range English Foot Pound 0-600 ft. lb.
• Grads. English 10 ft. lb.
• Torque Range Metric 0-800 Nm
• Grads. Metric 20 Nm
• Length Inches 46-1/2"
• Wt. Lbs. 9-1/4
• No. of Ext. Handles 1

 

[Woodsplinter]

Check out lugwrench.biz. I bought a torque multiplier from them last year for $160. It has a 58:1 gear ratio and all the sockets you need for a deuce. Removal is extremely easy and you can torque them back on by using a standard torque wrench with the multiplier. It comes with a form to tell you how much torque to use. 13 ft/lbs in = 350 out, etc.
The price is still the same but now they have on with a 78:1 ratio. Needs no air, and fits in the tool box. There's also a video on the website to demonstrate the tool.

 

[peashooter]

Check out lugwrench.biz. I bought a torque multiplier from them last year for $160. It has a 58:1 gear ratio and all the sockets you need for a deuce. Removal is extremely easy and you can torque them back on by using a standard torque wrench with the multiplier. It comes with a form to tell you how much torque to use. 13 ft/lbs in = 350 out, etc.
The price is still the same but now they have on with a 78:1 ratio. Needs no air, and fits in the tool box. There's also a video on the website to demonstrate the tool.

I second Woodsplinters recommendation. I also bought one of these and its nice. Think I paid around $150 shipped off ebay, it includes the sockets needed for the nuts and square thimbles and is small and fits in the truck better than the stock lugwrench does.

 

[o1951]

I agree - I would never bring the 5or 600 ft/lb torque wrench- too big.. That stays in the garage.

 

[Ford Mechanic]

Got one of these lug wrenches. Works great!!! But I didn't get the form.

Removal is extremely easy and you can torque them back on by using a standard torque wrench with the multiplier. It comes with a form to tell you how much torque to use. 13 ft/lbs in = 350 out, etc.
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Is this correct?

 

[Woodsplinter]

If you got the newer version with a different gear ratio, these numbers won't work. I'll be happy to scan & post it or email it to you.

 

[Woodsplinter]

Here is the information sheet which came with my Lugwrench, the 58:1 ratio one. The website now has a video on tightening lug nuts that recommends using a conventional torque wrench. Maybe they don't use the chart anymore.

 

[Ford Mechanic]

If you got the newer version with a different gear ratio, these numbers won't work. I'll be happy to scan & post it or email it to you.

Thanks man, but yeah I bought the 78:1 ratio one, they were out of the 58:1. I checked the website and all I saw was there new "half back" method of tightening your lugs. I reckon I'll email him and find out for sure.